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The favourites tag will be with Liverpool. 6 losses over this entire season, one in the league, against a team who might wrap up a domestic treble over the next ten days. Spurs have lost 17 over the course of the season. Essentially, over the course of the season Spurs have been much more beatable in the league and could finish over 20 points behind Liverpool and pip Arsenal on goal difference to 4th place.

But that won’t count for much on a once off game. It’s
Anybody’s to win.
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Probably stick 100-200 on spurs to lift the cup. Bit of compensation if spurs win but money I would be ok to part with to see Liverpool lift the cup 

Going to do the exact same with Liverpool.  LOL 
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Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

50% of ticket holders won't be supporters. That's fairly crap. It'll have a dead atmosphere.
Ah you know how it is, they'll find their way to fans via competitions, favours, people who know people etc
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Could be wrong but I think Liverpool lost 14 games in the 04/05 season only 3 less that Spurs this season. Finals are finals, the performance means nothing - just win it
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Originally posted by Croftman Croftman wrote:

Could be wrong but I think Liverpool lost 14 games in the 04/05 season only 3 less that Spurs this season. Finals are finals, the performance means nothing - just win it


Yep. Seen elsewhere that Villa lost 15 league games when they won it in '82 
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by Croftman Croftman wrote:

Could be wrong but I think Liverpool lost 14 games in the 04/05 season only 3 less that Spurs this season. Finals are finals, the performance means nothing - just win it


Yep. Seen elsewhere that Villa lost 15 league games when they won it in '82 

Liverpool in season 80/81 were almost as bad in the league, 17 draws and 8 losses led to a 5th placed finish.
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Probably stick 100-200 on spurs to lift the cup. Bit of compensation if spurs win but money I would be ok to part with to see Liverpool lift the cup 

Going to do the exact same with Liverpool.  LOL 


I stuck €10 ew on Tottenham at 25/1 before Man City game so I have a few bob already up. Just couldn't put a bet on the Pool in final. In fairness you have better odds on Tottenham anyhow.
I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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Not a very exciting final unless you're a fan of either team
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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Not a very exciting final unless you're a fan of either team
Not exciting because we get to see them play each otehr regularly, but they're two good teams.
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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Not a very exciting final unless you're a fan of either team
Two of the greatest comebacks in European history !!!

You’re hard to please.

Explain.
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There’s more than 2 countries in Europe Bob!
I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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Anyone heading over to this? Got Flights for about 160 all in, Shannon - Ibiza - Madrid on the way over for 60 and Madrid - Faro - Shannon for €120 back. Accom is absolutely impossible to get though. Heading over without a ticket aswell.
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Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Anyone heading over to this? Got Flights for about 160 all in, Shannon - Ibiza - Madrid on the way over for 60 and Madrid - Faro - Shannon for €120 back. Accom is absolutely impossible to get though. Heading over without a ticket aswell.
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Have you those flight details please??
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Not a very exciting final unless you're a fan of either team
Two of the greatest comebacks in European history !!!

You’re hard to please.

Explain.

Familiarity of the teams. Other than Bayern and Dortmund, same country finalists usually disappoint. And not having Ajax in it just seems have taken the gloss off it. 

I hope I'm wrong 
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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Not a very exciting final unless you're a fan of either team
Two of the greatest comebacks in European history !!!

You’re hard to please.

Explain.

Familiarity of the teams. Other than Bayern and Dortmund, same country finalists usually disappoint. And not having Ajax in it just seems have taken the gloss off it. 

I hope I'm wrong 
The lack of competition in the Champions League has to be affecting it a little bit. I have no idea of the viewing figures for it, but they must be way down for the group stages at least ?Ajax offered a little bit of unpredictability, the way Leicester did for the EPL a few years ago, but it is all very staid. People are acting like Spurs getting to the final is a miracle!

For a competition for the 'champions'(Embarrassed) of 54 of UEFA's 55 members, it is a bit boring that the only conceivable winners in the future are 10-12 clubs from the same 5 leagues. The 4 EPL teams(from 6 realistic qualifiers) , Barcelona and Real(Atletico at a push), PSG, Juventus and Bayern Munich. 

What odds would you get on a winner outside that group in the next five years? Football fans used to laugh at the European rugby competitions, but they are very similar in terms of competitiveness now.

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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Not a very exciting final unless you're a fan of either team
Two of the greatest comebacks in European history !!!

You’re hard to please.

Explain.

Familiarity of the teams. Other than Bayern and Dortmund, same country finalists usually disappoint. And not having Ajax in it just seems have taken the gloss off it. 

I hope I'm wrong 
The lack of competition in the Champions League has to be affecting it a little bit. I have no idea of the viewing figures for it, but they must be way down for the group stages at least ?Ajax offered a little bit of unpredictability, the way Leicester did for the EPL a few years ago, but it is all very staid. People are acting like Spurs getting to the final is a miracle!

For a competition for the 'champions'(Embarrassed) of 54 of UEFA's 55 members, it is a bit boring that the only conceivable winners in the future are 10-12 clubs from the same 5 leagues. The 4 EPL teams(from 6 realistic qualifiers) , Barcelona and Real(Atletico at a push), PSG, Juventus and Bayern Munich. 

What odds would you get on a winner outside that group in the next five years? Football fans used to laugh at the European rugby competitions, but they are very similar in terms of competitiveness now.


Isn't that like any sporting competition tough?

I'd imagine competitive balance is falling in all leagues (football) and across sports.
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Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Anyone heading over to this? Got Flights for about 160 all in, Shannon - Ibiza - Madrid on the way over for 60 and Madrid - Faro - Shannon for €120 back. Accom is absolutely impossible to get though. Heading over without a ticket aswell.
Yes

Basing myself in Valencia - arriving the afternoon of the match and heading back on a train the next morning

Thursday: Dublin-Paris €54
Friday: Paris - Valencia €44
Saturday: Valencia-Madrid train €39
Sunday: Madrid - Valencia train €51
Monday: Valencia - Barcelona train €36
Monday: Girona - Cork €29

Valencia - Madrid train takes 1 hour and 50 minutes

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