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Originally posted by brendy_éire brendy_éire wrote:

Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

is the lad with the bell same chap that does go every St Pats game and stands on tarmac side?


It's a different person, AFAIK.
Yes defo different 
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Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Originally posted by d-mac d-mac wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Between the flags confiscated and the lad with the bell trying to drown out the anti fai and Delaney chants, no free speech for Irish football fans 

Serious question - Whats the story with the bell in the aviva? Why do they ring it?

It's a supporter. He's been ringing that damn bell for years. 
Well that coont should no longer be cheered but fookin booed 
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He’s Davey Keogh’s buddy enough said🤮🤮
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Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

He’s Davey Keogh’s buddy enough said🤮🤮

Is it the old guy that always has the hat with the pins on? He's sound but I agree that the bell should be boo'd everytime it's rattled! 

We should all get in 45 mins early to one of the upcoming games for anti-delaney chants
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Don't think it is fair to mention Mr Keogh just because his mate rings a bell, he isn't on here (as far as I know) to defend his views and personally, I've never seen DK put in or out on anyone during an away trip, the man mainly minds his own business. 

I'd have an issue with the 'independence' of SC's in general, as their close relationship with the FAI automatically means that independence is compromised when it comes to issues like this. As regards confiscating the flags, maybe someone in the FAI (and once again gents, if you are reading this, good afternoon etc) should google 'Streisand Effect'. There is far more negative publicity in the confiscation of the flags than there would be had they let them in. As Pipkin pointed out earlier on, the flag was on display at the end of the Poland friendly & got no traction whatsoever, anywhere. Today, the main radio talkshow in the country is using an interview excerpt from Zeno as a promotional jingle/intro type thing.  

The protests at the game, fair play to the lads, they kept it up for the majority of the game. Any of us should be entitled to express negative views on either the rubbish football, or the failures of administration that directly lead to that situation, in my opinion.  Had a good view (of the Irish fans) at the back of lower section in Denmark, and while I personally don't agree with the bell ringer chap (thought his arm might fall off at one point)- those lads were not the only ones who didn't agree with the chanting at the game. 

2 lads in front of me, who I think were travelling together/mates had a very civil discussion during the game re the chants, one lad was joining in with the chants, his mate was silent, arms folded, stating we are only there to support the team. The singing chap had a different point of view. Some of the older fans I know & spoke to at the game didn't agree with it either, and that wasn't because they were pro JD or FAI or SC members. Maybe those buckos have a simplistic view, but they are entitled to it too. 

Anyway, in general, it's sh*te to see a division in Irish fans, hopefully the appointment of a new manager will take that away, even if only temporarily, for the new campaign, but tis unrealistic to expect that many people to have a uniform opinion on anything at all. JD/FAI will always have a core support whether anyone likes it or not, there will also be a certain number of fans who don't agree with negative chanting, regardless of the situation. 




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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

https://www.change.org/p/football-association-of-ireland-remove-john-delaney-as-head-of-the-fai/psf/share?source_location=petition_show&psf_variant=combo

That's gaining a lot of traction. If it hits 10k the media will hopefully cover it. 

1500 when I saw it yesterday, up to 6,000 +. 
If it hits 50,000 then pass it onto Shane 'what do I actually do' Ross LOL LOL LOL LOL
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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

https://www.change.org/p/football-association-of-ireland-remove-john-delaney-as-head-of-the-fai/psf/share?source_location=petition_show&psf_variant=combo

That's gaining a lot of traction. If it hits 10k the media will hopefully cover it. 

1500 when I saw it yesterday, up to 6,000 +. 
If it hits 50,000 then pass it onto Shane 'what do I actually do' Ross LOL LOL LOL LOL

Shane Ross another clown. He's probably pals with JD
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Let me start by saying I would love nothing more than to wake up tomorrow and hear that Delaney is no longer our CEO.

Saying that, get a f*cking grip lads.
Booing "the lad who rings the bell" and giving out because of who he hangs around with is nonsensical. Im fed up with Delaney's reign just as much as the next man but what I'm also fed up with is fans turning on other fans over minor incidents.

Aside from the fact that I actually know "the lad with the bell" personally and he has been going for donkeys years the point has to be made that he is entitled to his opinion just as much as we are.

The point I made after the game in Aarhus is if a big group of lads started singing pro-Delaney songs you'd be sure as sh*t that we'd try and drown them out too.

Dont lose sight of the enemy lads. Its Delaney, not our fellow fans.
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The most logical/effective form of protest would be to target the upcoming draw for the Euros in the convention centre. A simple banner draped along the opposite bank of the Liffey could be enough to cause a stir. 

Much to the embarrassment of Delaney in front of his UEFA cronies!
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Originally posted by GreenArmy! GreenArmy! wrote:

Let me start by saying I would love nothing more than to wake up tomorrow and hear that Delaney is no longer our CEO.

Saying that, get a f*cking grip lads.
Booing "the lad who rings the bell" and giving out because of who he hangs around with is nonsensical. Im fed up with Delaney's reign just as much as the next man but what I'm also fed up with is fans turning on other fans over minor incidents.

Aside from the fact that I actually know "the lad with the bell" personally and he has been going for donkeys years the point has to be made that he is entitled to his opinion just as much as we are.

The point I made after the game in Aarhus is if a big group of lads started singing pro-Delaney songs you'd be sure as sh*t that we'd try and drown them out too.

Dont lose sight of the enemy lads. Its Delaney, not our fellow fans.
 
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Originally posted by Podge-SFC Podge-SFC wrote:

The most logical/effective form of protest would be to target the upcoming draw for the Euros in the convention centre. A simple banner draped along the opposite bank of the Liffey could be enough to cause a stir. 

Much to the embarrassment of Delaney in front of his UEFA cronies!
Theres a WhatsApp group set up with about 200 people in it. Huge things planned I hear. A few lads work beside the convention centre,and are planning on hanging flags out windows. Another lad has a boat and will have it on the Liffey with flags and megaphone. Some great ideas being put forward that will be in full eyes of the worlds media
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Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

Originally posted by Podge-SFC Podge-SFC wrote:

The most logical/effective form of protest would be to target the upcoming draw for the Euros in the convention centre. A simple banner draped along the opposite bank of the Liffey could be enough to cause a stir. 

Much to the embarrassment of Delaney in front of his UEFA cronies!
Theres a WhatsApp group set up with about 200 people in it. Huge things planned I hear. A few lads work beside the convention centre,and are planning on hanging flags out windows. Another lad has a boat and will have it on the Liffey with flags and megaphone. Some great ideas being put forward that will be in full eyes of the worlds media


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Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

Originally posted by Podge-SFC Podge-SFC wrote:

The most logical/effective form of protest would be to target the upcoming draw for the Euros in the convention centre. A simple banner draped along the opposite bank of the Liffey could be enough to cause a stir. 

Much to the embarrassment of Delaney in front of his UEFA cronies!
Theres a WhatsApp group set up with about 200 people in it. Huge things planned I hear. A few lads work beside the convention centre,and are planning on hanging flags out windows. Another lad has a boat and will have it on the Liffey with flags and megaphone. Some great ideas being put forward that will be in full eyes of the worlds media

must say some great idea's in that group BSM. the banners in surrounding hotels etc that delegates will be staying in is a great idea. 
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Originally posted by deise316 deise316 wrote:

Don't think it is fair to mention Mr Keogh just because his mate rings a bell, he isn't on here (as far as I know) to defend his views and personally, I've never seen DK put in or out on anyone during an away trip, the man mainly minds his own business. 

I'd have an issue with the 'independence' of SC's in general, as their close relationship with the FAI automatically means that independence is compromised when it comes to issues like this. As regards confiscating the flags, maybe someone in the FAI (and once again gents, if you are reading this, good afternoon etc) should google 'Streisand Effect'. There is far more negative publicity in the confiscation of the flags than there would be had they let them in. As Pipkin pointed out earlier on, the flag was on display at the end of the Poland friendly & got no traction whatsoever, anywhere. Today, the main radio talkshow in the country is using an interview excerpt from Zeno as a promotional jingle/intro type thing.  

The protests at the game, fair play to the lads, they kept it up for the majority of the game. Any of us should be entitled to express negative views on either the rubbish football, or the failures of administration that directly lead to that situation, in my opinion.  Had a good view (of the Irish fans) at the back of lower section in Denmark, and while I personally don't agree with the bell ringer chap (thought his arm might fall off at one point)- those lads were not the only ones who didn't agree with the chanting at the game. 

2 lads in front of me, who I think were travelling together/mates had a very civil discussion during the game re the chants, one lad was joining in with the chants, his mate was silent, arms folded, stating we are only there to support the team. The singing chap had a different point of view. Some of the older fans I know & spoke to at the game didn't agree with it either, and that wasn't because they were pro JD or FAI or SC members. Maybe those buckos have a simplistic view, but they are entitled to it too. 

Anyway, in general, it's sh*te to see a division in Irish fans, hopefully the appointment of a new manager will take that away, even if only temporarily, for the new campaign, but tis unrealistic to expect that many people to have a uniform opinion on anything at all. JD/FAI will always have a core support whether anyone likes it or not, there will also be a certain number of fans who don't agree with negative chanting, regardless of the situation. 





Could easily have been me and Charlton's Child : you obviously missed the bit where we eventually agreed I was right !!!! LOL

Seriously though, everybody should have the right to protest within the law and everybody should have the right to not protest and not have that held against them if they don't. 

I do get annoyed by people who don't protest because they think JD is doing a good job or he has looked after them in some way in the past for that's a different argument. 


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The FAI confiscating banners is way out of order. I wonder if its even legal. Fans are entitled to legitimate protest and the flag could never be classed as offensive by any reasonable person. 

If you want to look for offensive you could start with the “James McClean hates the f*****g queen” chant.  Apart from the challenge of singing it without sounding like a complete moron, we are attributing hatred of a 90 plus great grandmother to a player who has enough on his plate already. He should at least be asked. 
 
As for the split in the fans, I found Monday fairly depressing.  In all the years I am at this, through good times and bad,  I always felt that the team came first and that the reason we were there was to give them as much support as possible. You can hardly criticise a player for lack of effort if you don’t put in a shift yourself. All the other stuff, getting away with your mates, the pints, seeing foreign cities, was a bonus. 


I have no time at all for Delaney and his gang, and a good protest is fine by me and well warranted given the state of Irish football, but on Monday it went on so long that it became self indulgent and seemed more important than what was happening on the pitch. Shouting down those people trying to get behind their team is not on.  And as for those “supporters” chanting “we’re sh*te” (apparently unaware of the irony) while the game was going on, enough said. 

A protest at the draw sounds much more interesting or perhaps at the 13th minute to “celebrate” each year of our beloved leader’s reign. 

Hopefully a new manager will get us back on track, on the pitch and in the stand at least.





 






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Originally posted by GreenArmy! GreenArmy! wrote:

Let me start by saying I would love nothing more than to wake up tomorrow and hear that Delaney is no longer our CEO.

Saying that, get a f*cking grip lads.
Booing "the lad who rings the bell" and giving out because of who he hangs around with is nonsensical. Im fed up with Delaney's reign just as much as the next man but what I'm also fed up with is fans turning on other fans over minor incidents.

Aside from the fact that I actually know "the lad with the bell" personally and he has been going for donkeys years the point has to be made that he is entitled to his opinion just as much as we are.

The point I made after the game in Aarhus is if a big group of lads started singing pro-Delaney songs you'd be sure as sh*t that we'd try and drown them out too.

Dont lose sight of the enemy lads. Its Delaney, not our fellow fans.

While I don't see the point in booing the fella he did roar abuse at a bunch of us in 114 after a game for singing anti-Delaney/FAI chants, said we were a disgrace and ruined the game for everyone, I presume he's one of JD's butt monkeys....
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