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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

My car was stolen in 2013 and lost my no claims bonus - as expected.

This is what I've paid for 3rd party F+T.

2014 - 383e
2015 - 432e
2016 - 542e
2017 - 551e
2018 - 653e

They are some increases. I thought the premiums were going down?

IF it’s the same car for all 5 years I don’t think it’s too crazy. I’ve certainly heard worse, especially with a claim thrown in 
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The year after you lost your NCB your insurance was only €383? Seems ridiculously low to me

Edited by bhob - 18 Apr 2018 at 11:23am
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Croftman Croftman wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

My car was stolen in 2013 and lost my no claims bonus - as expected.

This is what I've paid for 3rd party F+T.

2014 - 383e
2015 - 432e
2016 - 542e
2017 - 551e
2018 - 653e

They are some increases. I thought the premiums were going down?


They've leveled off a bit alright but not too many gone down yet unfortunately
You shouldn't have lost your NCB for a theft claim though. With most companies Fire, Theft & Windscreen claims don't affect it in any way


Why would you not lose your no claims bonus after making a claim?

They paid out nearly 6k.

Your no claims bonus goes from x years to 3 years after you make a claim.

For a few reasons

It wouldn't matter once its one of the 3 types of claims mentioned above. If you had a crash or a Third Party claim fair enough. If its Fire, Theft or Windscreen the NCB wont be touched by the majority of companies

It would also depend on what type of NCB Protection cover you had on your policy. There's different types so if you had a Full NCB cover you could have a crash and the NCB wouldn't be affected at all. You could have Stepback cover which would see the NCB "stepback" a few years in the event of a claim, usually 2 years. If you'd no cover then you could lose it completely and go back down to zero
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No decent insurance company will punish you for you car being stolen , talk about getting kicked while already on the ground LOL

Strange one if your car is stolen & wrecked but recovered and you claim for the repairs you will lose your NCB , So if your car is stolen you're better off having it burnt out in a field somewhere Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sono Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 2018 at 12:06pm
Originally posted by Patman Scoop Patman Scoop wrote:

Strange one if your car is stolen & wrecked but recovered and you claim for the repairs you will lose your NCB , So if your car is stolen you're better off having it burnt out in a field somewhere Confused

In that case what is to stop me buying a crashed car with €5k worth of damage, report it stolen and then plant it somewhere and say it’s found with all the damage and I then claim for it, you have to draw the line somewhere as well. 




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Originally posted by Patman Scoop Patman Scoop wrote:

No decent insurance company will punish you for you car being stolen , talk about getting kicked while already on the ground LOL

Strange one if your car is stolen & wrecked but recovered and you claim for the repairs you will lose your NCB , So if your car is stolen you're better off having it burnt out in a field somewhere Confused
Not necessarily. If its damage as a result of theft or attempted theft it would normally be treated as a theft claim so wouldn't affect the NCB
 

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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Croftman Croftman wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

My car was stolen in 2013 and lost my no claims bonus - as expected.

This is what I've paid for 3rd party F+T.

2014 - 383e
2015 - 432e
2016 - 542e
2017 - 551e
2018 - 653e

They are some increases. I thought the premiums were going down?


They've leveled off a bit alright but not too many gone down yet unfortunately
You shouldn't have lost your NCB for a theft claim though. With most companies Fire, Theft & Windscreen claims don't affect it in any way


Why would you not lose your no claims bonus after making a claim?

They paid out nearly 6k.

Your no claims bonus goes from x years to 3 years after you make a claim.

because with a lot of companies theft claims dont impact you NCB. Likewise with some companies, claims of any sort up to a certain amount usually around 10k dont impact.depends on the comapny though.
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Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Got the dreaded letter in the post today, it actually came down 10%, still over 800 quid though!

After coming down last year, it's gone up again this year!

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Originally posted by Sono Sono wrote:

Originally posted by Patman Scoop Patman Scoop wrote:

Strange one if your car is stolen & wrecked but recovered and you claim for the repairs you will lose your NCB , So if your car is stolen you're better off having it burnt out in a field somewhere Confused

In that case what is to stop me buying a crashed car with €5k worth of damage, report it stolen and then plant it somewhere and say it’s found with all the damage and I then claim for it, you have to draw the line somewhere as well. 

What ConfusedLOL

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another 2% on premiums from yesterday..

So thats:

3% for PMPA
2% for Quinn 
2% now for Setanta



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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

another 2% on premiums from yesterday..

So thats:

3% for PMPA
2% for Quinn 
2% now for Setanta
There was a good piece on TV3 about it last night, the amount we need to pay for the bankruptcy of these companies is basically a result of the massive payouts for car crashes. All the companies went to the wall because of car insurance claims being massively overpaid by judges and overcharged by legal teams. Until we get to the bottom of those, there's gonna be more and more levies when any other companies go to the wall.
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TV3 is sensationalist bollocks, though. It's from the same school as "Britain's benefit tenants" and "Don't pay, we'll take it away". It is designed to mock and belittle a small subset of genuine claimants and tar vast swathes of people with a broad brush.

If injury payouts were halved in the morning, I very much doubt insurance premiums would be halved. Insurance companies are significantly worse gougers than any car crash claimant or lawyer.

I'm not saying fraudulent claims don't exist (they do) and I'm not saying that some payouts aren't too high (they are) but you need to question everything; in this case, TV3's sensationalist agenda and insurance company's desire to protect their bottom line above all else.
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I saw an article yesterday of a lady getting 245k pay out for PTSD after she was hit by a car.

She crossed the road at a pedestrian red light ,I know driver is supposed to be alert/aware of their surroundings but surely the pedestrian shouldn't be getting a massive pay out when its essentially their own fault?
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

another 2% on premiums from yesterday..

So thats:

3% for PMPA
2% for Quinn 
2% now for Setanta
There was a good piece on TV3 about it last night, the amount we need to pay for the bankruptcy of these companies is basically a result of the massive payouts for car crashes. All the companies went to the wall because of car insurance claims being massively overpaid by judges and overcharged by legal teams. Until we get to the bottom of those, there's gonna be more and more levies when any other companies go to the wall.

 
More to do with book of quantum having ridiculously high pay-outs in it, much higher than elsewhere - that directly increases the premium.

Whiplash is very high payout in it despite is probably being a made up condition
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I'd say the €245k was for more than PTSD. That would be very unusual.

If you step into the road and a driver has plenty of time to stop but doesn't, both sides are to blame. It depends on the circumstances of the individual case. If you are 20% to blame for an accident, you still get 80% of the damages you'd be entitled to ordinarily. And if a driver has time to stop completely, or to avoid an accident, and doesn't, then even if their light was green, chances are they will be found almost entirely liable.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sham157 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jan 2019 at 7:59am
That time of year again...anyway, my premium has gone down a few quid to €628 with Ivernia through chill.ie. Have shopped around and only one came close (25plus.ie @ €685) with every other quote ranging between €800-€1100.
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my Ivernia premium went up hugely back in Nov. No claims or anything.  Switched to Allianz Direct who were considerably cheaper.

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