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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Going by your previous posts in the whatever section I feel there is a hint of racism in your weird agenda against Bazunu.

Ah, now it's the racist card thrown out. Criticism of a Dubliner who can't keep a clean sheet amounts to a racist agenda these days. Confused I suppose that also extends to posters who say that Idah isn't up to it either. And there was a lot of them who saw that last night. 

As for Bazunu's distribution, that brought about the penalty for Portugal, and the throw in that led to the Serbia goal. He was beaten at his near post against Azerbaijan, and that's just the last 3 games. None of them were clean sheets. That's not racism, that's what happened. 

We have a situation where a manager struggling to keep his neck above the water, prefers a keeper at Portsmouth who has conceded 7 goals in 7 games, to a keeper with a European Cup winners medal round his neck, manages to keep the ball out of the net, and who might just save Kenny's job if he gets the chance. 

Even a world champion winner like Klopp who has won everything and the kitchen sink, couldn't resist having a dig last night at Kenny over snubbing him. Does that also amount to "racism" in your book? 

Are you a Liverpool barstooler or from Cork? Or both. Something is imparing your ability for rational thought 
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Kelleher did well last night, granted it was against poor opposition. Bazunu was excellent in our last three games bar the odd poor decision which is to be expected at such a young age. This time last year had someone told me Randolph wouldn't be making squads I would be genuinely concerned. Now though these two young keepers have shown they are more than capable which is great 
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Planning is possibly the only poster who thinks Kelleher should play ahead of Bazunu.

Looking at the performances of the Ireland players in the last few Ireland games Bazunu comes out on top.1
     
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I am in the camp that I believe that Kelleher might just shade it for me given his excellent distribution with no effort at all. However, Bazunu absolutely has the jersey at present and it will take a Kelleher run at Liverpool playing savage to force any change unless Bazunu' performances drop off and makes big mistakes. 

But I am also not sure who has the higher ceiling, Bazunu is still so young and will likely get even better and those mistakes I do think are still in his game will hopefully be wiped out.

Could be that next season both of them are number 2 at City and Liverpool respectively 
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Kelleher has a champions league winners meda around his neck 😀😀😀😀.  

How did he contribute to that ? 
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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Flawless performance again who should be Ireland's No. 1, showing Bazunu how you keep a clean sheet. Not only did he save a crucial penalty, just look at how he cleared every through ball over his back four. When you see how Bazunu managed it In the Serbia game by completely missing everything and the ball, there really is no comparison between them. 

Kenny did show up to watch him, and he has a choice to make. Either he sticks with a keeper who can't keep clean sheets, costing us points and sending him nearer the exit door, or he plays someone he can rely upon to  keep clean sheets but can't play every week. For me, it's a no brainer. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Kelleher has a champions league winners meda around his neck 😀😀😀😀.  

How did he contribute to that ? 


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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Kelleher has a champions league winners meda around his neck

How did he contribute to that ? 

Who gives a toss? He has one. What has Bazunu got? 

If he was keeping clean sheets, I would understand why he's playing instead of Kelleher, but he's not and we're losing games and points, so...
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I personally prefer Kelleher of the two but it is very tight! They are two outstanding prospects and it's not a million to one both will be back ups at City and Liverpool respectively next year. 

Kelleher is in a lovely spot now as No.2 a good Cup run or two and touch wood a good old fashioned injury for Alisson at some stage allowing Kelleher to dip in and out PL/CL games will give him 10 games plus this season. That alone on his CV would be enough to attract proper interest when he inevitably looks to go on loan down the line eventually he will do! 

I can see how Bazunu is first choice at Ireland for the moment mind! 
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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Kelleher has a champions league winners meda around his neck

How did he contribute to that ? 

Who gives a toss? He has one. What has Bazunu got? 

If he was keeping clean sheets, I would understand why he's playing instead of Kelleher, but he's not and we're losing games and points, so...

 
He is 19 ffs what do you expect him to have. We are not keeping clean sheets because we are not playing well enough and his goal is being peppered with shots.  
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

I am in the camp that I believe that Kelleher might just shade it for me given his excellent distribution with no effort at all. However, Bazunu absolutely has the jersey at present and it will take a Kelleher run at Liverpool playing savage to force any change unless Bazunu' performances drop off and makes big mistakes. 

But I am also not sure who has the higher ceiling, Bazunu is still so young and will likely get even better and those mistakes I do think are still in his game will hopefully be wiped out.

Could be that next season both of them are number 2 at City and Liverpool respectively 
 
And this is a point that gets lost by some when comparing the two. There's a pretty big difference in terms of how close they are to the finished article between a 22 year old and a 19 year old goalkeeper. Now obviously neither are near the finished article yet - but for Bazunu to be as good as he as that age, for a goalkeeper, is pretty incredible.
 
I think both are on course to be potentially world class but there's still a bit of a way to go for both and it's a great position for us to be in to have the two of them. Although as another poster pointed out it's a shame in some ways as well if they do both go on to be top notch as unlike any other position on the pitch you can only use one at a time. But even at that it means you're not sh*tting bricks if one of them gets injured coming up to a big international game as the other one will be able to step in.
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They both seem like decent lads as well, I wouldn't foresee one of them going off in a huff and quitting the squad if they become a clear second choice for us at any stage.
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Originally posted by planningLFC planningLFC wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Kelleher has a champions league winners meda around his neck

How did he contribute to that ? 

Who gives a toss? He has one. What has Bazunu got? 

If he was keeping clean sheets, I would understand why he's playing instead of Kelleher, but he's not and we're losing games and points, so...

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I agree, we should only look at players with CL or European Cup winners (sorry Gilesy) medals. So next time out Im thinking

                   Kelleher
Irwin  Lawrenson O Shea Finan Dunne
Heighway Keane (c) Whelan Brennan
                  Robinson 

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We're fortunate to have two very promising goalkeeper's at present. Bazunu deserves his spot as number one given how he's played and also he's starting games week in week out.

If Kelleher gets a run of games maybe it'll be different. Plannings logic doesn't make any sense around the champions league medal.
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Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

We're fortunate to have two very promising goalkeeper's at present. Bazunu deserves his spot as number one given how he's played and also he's starting games week in week out.

If Kelleher gets a run of games maybe it'll be different. Plannings logic doesn't make any sense around the champions league medal.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

He is 19 ffs what do you expect him to have. We are not keeping clean sheets because we are not playing well enough and his goal is being peppered with shots.

His age is no excuse. By 19, Kelleher was already at Liverpool and already playing pre season friendlies. By 20, he was making his senior debut and winning his European Cup medal. Now he's progressed to No. 2 at one of the biggest clubs in the world, facing some of the world's best forwards every day of the week.

Bazunu will never play a game for City, not even a pre season friendly. Instead he'll be sent out to whoever will take him, and he'll have no stability at club level. 7 goals conceded in 7 games is not very impressive for a goalkeeper at any level, and it shouldn't guarantee him a starting place here.

Kelleher doesn't make mistakes and Kenny can rely on him. But to do that, he has to get him off the bench and onto the pitch. When Jota comes to  Lansdowne next month, it will be Bazunu facing him instead of someone who does it every day of the week and knows his game inside out. That can only mean more goals conceded and the inevitable fallout from it, that we're all used to hearing and reading about, by now. 
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