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Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Privatise the fookin lot!!!
If it goes private people can forget about rural bus services and a around the clock service. If the company is looking to save money the best people to ask are those who work inside the organisation not bureaucrats  
 
 
rural bus services are muck anyway
Tell that to the man or woman who get brought to the hospital for healthcare treatment.
 
 
yes indeed , leave belmullet at 8.30 am  , get to ballina about 11, wait there an hour and then get bus to castlebar hit castlebar about 1 , you then have 3 hours in the hospital to get your stuff done and get the bus back to ballina and eventually hit belmullet about 8pm , all for a round trip of about 2 1/2 hours in a car , if you are that sick then the journey isnt helping thats for sure....
 
look i am not saying the services are not needed , or that it would be worth investing in them, just that they are muck.
 
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Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Privatise the fookin lot!!!
If it goes private people can forget about rural bus services and a around the clock service. If the company is looking to save money the best people to ask are those who work inside the organisation not bureaucrats  
 
 
rural bus services are muck anyway
Tell that to the man or woman who get brought to the hospital for healthcare treatment.
 
 
yes indeed , leave belmullet at 8.30 am  , get to ballina about 11, wait there an hour and then get bus to castlebar hit castlebar about 1 , you then have 3 hours in the hospital to get your stuff done and get the bus back to ballina and eventually hit belmullet about 8pm , all for a round trip of about 2 1/2 hours in a car , if you are that sick then the journey isnt helping thats for sure....
 
look i am not saying the services are not needed , or that it would be worth investing in them, just that they are muck.
 
They are sh*t enough alright but a private company wouldn't even run rural routes.
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The demarcation lines in this dispute are remarkably clear , management MAY have their terms & conditions amended sometime in the future & MAY see a reduction in annual leave - again sometime in the future.

Clerical staff , bus drivers & allied workers however will see their terms & conditions diminish on the 12th of this month if the company proceeds with it's plan.

CIE have a reserve fund of in excess of 60 million but obviously require these funds to keep the upper echelons in the style they have become accustomed to , does it really surprise anyone that the Chairman of Bus Eireann works in Dubai & returns to Ireland for meetings regarding Bus Eireann. - he surely has his finger on the pulse
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Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Privatise the fookin lot!!!

If it goes private people can forget about rural bus services and a around the clock service. If the company is looking to save money the best people to ask are those who work inside the organisation not bureaucrats  
 
 

rural bus services are muck anyway

Tell that to the man or woman who get brought to the hospital for healthcare treatment.
they privatised thst too over here. I was going into st marys hospital in Paddington this morning and a patient was being brought home by ambulance. Who was doing the ambulance service....it was dhl! That old man will be brought straight back home to his door. That is not just for London but happens country wide and is free for patients like everything else in the nhs bar prescriptions for some.

The practices going on in bus eireann are criminal....the money wasted by that organisation is sickening!!! Due to mad eu rules the bus drivers can't now drive all the way from dublin to cork and cork to dublin because they'll go over the allowance for driving. They have to stop in fermoy where a driver will be waiting to complete the 30minute journey to cork. Likewise the driver going to Dublin will go as far as fermoy and get off and a new driver will get on and complete the journey to Dublin. My mate was saying this has been going on for months and all that is needed is an adjustment to the timetables and rostering....but no they continue to burn ludicrous amounts of money due to inefficiencies.

Edited by colemanY2K - 10 May 2013 at 12:58pm
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a fate worse than death... stopping in fermoy
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Let them strike and leave them on strike, they are well paid! The Galway bus drivers got a pay increase a couple of years back because there depot moved 500 yards.
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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

a fate worse than death... stopping in fermoy
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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

a fate worse than death... stopping in fermoy
Ouch
 
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Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

a fate worse than death... stopping in fermoy

Ouch
 


Are you a fermoy man?
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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

a fate worse than death... stopping in fermoy

Ouch
 


Are you a fermoy man?
Pefer the term blow in. Born in Dublin but living here a good 15 years....unforunatley LOL
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Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

a fate worse than death... stopping in fermoy

Ouch
 


Are you a fermoy man?
Pefer the term blow in. Born in Dublin but living here a good 15 years....unforunatley LOL
That's three of us then with KevinCronin2000 as well.
 
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Edited by colemanY2K - 10 May 2013 at 1:55pm
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They should start at the top to set an example, far too many needless managers at CIE companies. There's a ticket checker still on one certain bus route in Cork, no need for that job role. They could also get rid of certain routes like the 201 bus in Cork which just goes around the Northside in Cork and has about five people at most on it at any one time. 

Edited by corkery - 10 May 2013 at 4:55pm
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Originally posted by corkery corkery wrote:

They should start at the top to set an example, far too many needless managers at CIE companies. There's a ticket checker still on one certain bus route in Cork, no need for that job role. They could also get rid of certain routes like the 201 bus in Cork which just goes around the Northside in Cork and has about five people at most on it at any one time. 
I can guarantee those 5 will have some kind of a bus pass!
 
Even prisoners on temporary release are given bus passes ffs.
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Maybe missing some of the big point here lads, yet again it's the rank and file ( and yes they get a decent wage in fairness) who are being burned. It's always the joe soaps, the PAYE worker on low / middle income to get rode. I personally support their strike action, and if the rest of the average population had have one his ages ago maybe we wouldn't be getting screwed. However, as always, the majority will sit on their arses and at best moan about things and at worse have a pop off people who might earn more than them or be lucky enough to have. Job in the first place.

There's no doubt there's inefficiencies where huge savings could be made and if these were approached in a common sense manner then m opinion would be different. The fact they have €60m in a CIE reserve that they won't access speaks volumes.
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Everyone will be watching this strike because of Croke Park 2, if the Company win, it might make a deal easier for Croke Park 2 but if the union wins it might cause hassle for pay reductions in the civil service.
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Smash the Unions, let them die.
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Originally posted by Landon Donovan Landon Donovan wrote:

Smash the Unions, let them die.
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Originally posted by Landon Donovan Landon Donovan wrote:

Smash the Unions, let them die.


Absolutely , what have the Unions ever done for us - apart from :
5 day week
8 hour working days ( or less in many cases )
Maternity leave
Occupational health & safety
Workplace pensions
Paid holidays
Equality laws
Employment legislation
Pay increases
Minimum wage
Collective bargaining.

There is of course the chance that Governments & employers would have voluntarily introduced the above - about the same chance that pigs will fly !

Let's not forget the heroic work done recently by the Unite Union on behalf of the Waterford Glass workers.

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