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Bohs
Alan Kernaghan Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 125 |
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What are you basing that on? The fact that not every player who goes over there is a success isn't a valid reason for a blanket judgement. If we were having a discussion around which is better between the EPL and La Liga, the fact that you don't see Messi and Villa leaving for the Premiership wouldn't mean a whole lot. They're well-paid and happy where they are. Plenty of League of Ireland players are well-paid and happy where they are. They have the chance to play European football every year or two. Teams outside the top 8 in the Premiership cannot offer that.
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Kevin Kilbane Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Status: Offline Points: 248 |
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based on the best players we have going over and not doing well |
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Honey Monster
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A few examples may help your argument here Donegalfan… |
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donegalfan
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Status: Offline Points: 248 |
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Dave Mooney
Roy O'Donovan
Gary Dicker
Alan Bennett
Wes Houlihan
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donegalfan
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Status: Offline Points: 248 |
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Top players in this league, none doing great over there. I think that does prove the standard of the league here is worse then the english clubs.
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Ronnie Whelan Joined: 23 Apr 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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keith fahy and stephan ward will play for ireland. wes holuihan has got a senoir call up but is out injured at the moment. if keith fahy (who scored on the weekend by the way) gets a call up next season when birmingham are in the premiership thats our point proven. how can some suddenly become good enough for an international call up in 5-6 months. he is and has being good enough for a longtime. but trap wont even give this league the time of day. sure he barely goes to premiership games.
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donegalfan
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If you read over my posts you wil see i have commented on players like Fahey, Ward, and Doyle as being the exceptions (and in fairness ony one of them actually has a cap at this moment in time)
Others who have done ok would be Noel Hunt and Shane Long but both are subs.
Houlihan doesnt play every week for Norwich when he is fit.
Id love to see the league getting more focus and better players but the management think the LOI players are big fish in small ponds and thats why he wont get in.
Also on the Murphy thing, Joe Murphy was voted best keeper in League 1 last night by all the other players
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Bohs
Alan Kernaghan Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 125 |
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Yeah, footballers, footballers also voted Evra as the best left back, and Giggs the best player in the Premiership this season, as well as voting Van Der Sar worthy of a nomination. It'll be a while before I take the opinions of dumb footballers seriously. |
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donegalfan
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Didnt both of them play their part in 14 cleen sheets in a row??
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TBWRA
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whats your point caller ? F**** Obviously |
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Caller, how many live LOI games a year do you see compared to englsih leagues and I'll exclude televised football |
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two goals for Shane Long Tonight
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donegalfan
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if you read my posts you will see im saying that in my opinion that is the view of the management team. Ive praised Doyle, Fahey, Ward and Long, and Noel Hunt is also doing well.
These guys are good players and have shown this by going to big clubs and doing well.
There are a large number of players who are classed as top players over here and go to england and do not do well.
Houlihan
Roy O'Donavan
George O'Callaghan
Gary Dicker
Mooney
Can you argue that these were not top players in LOI?
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Honey Monster
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I’d argue that Houlihan has done well since he went to England, and Mooney has being showing good form lately despite their club in serious danger of being relegated. O’Callaghan did ok, but didn’t set the place alight at Ipswich. Think Georgie had a few personal problems along the way that didn’t help him. What about that young Meyler lad, is he anywhere near first team football?? |
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donegalfan
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Point is that those guys were the top dogs over here. Houlihan has not been playing reguarly for Norwich.
O'Callaghan scored 1 goal in 31 games between Ipswich, Brighton and Tranmere.
These were top players over here.
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Ronnie Whelan Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 79 |
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Do you watch any football at all because you havent a clue what your on about. Couple of points - The Ireland national team aint no great great shakes. Houlihan was named in the league one team of the year and has. He was signed for £250,000 which shows he doing something right and he has 32 league appearances this year alone. Considering his wage packet could be anywhere between £6,000 - $15000 a week, i would call that a bloody good success. Roy O'Donovan is currently on the books of a premiership team and is playing football for a championship team. George O'Callaghan moved from a league one side to a team fighting relegation in the LOI. The league table suggests he is playing for one of the worst teams in the league and you wont find to many people saying he should be in the ireland squad. When he last played with Cork he wasnt Corks best midfielder never mind leagues best player. Not sure why Tranmere thought he could do a job for them. Gary Dicker. Firstly, he played for one of the worst clubs in the league. Secondly, no one has ever said Gary was one of the leagues top players. Despite been at best an average LOI player, he managed to play a key part of the promotion drive for Stockport. Mooney was one of the top players in the LOI. When he moved to reading, he had 3 excellent forwards ahead of them in the pecking order, its no shame not to be able to get on ahead of Lita, Doyle Kitson and Doyle, all with plenty top flight experience. Mooney has since went on loan to Norwich where he has been banging the goals in. Mooney's best days are ahead of him, if you want to do a bit of research, you will find that despite an awful run of injuries, his goals per game ratio for Reading reserves has been superb. A first team call up awaits. Now feck away of will you. U say that you have gave praise to the guys that have made it. Exactly, they have made it and you cant discount them from your argument. You have also failed to bring up that the league has recently had players who had played or current play international football elsewhere. The likes of Mindaugas Kalonas, Ndo and Boco have had pretty decent international careers. |
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donegalfan
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Status: Offline Points: 248 |
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Ok, if the argument is that the Irish LOI players are good enough for international caps, please list the players you would think are good enough.
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