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oldbilly 
Ray Houghton 
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No probably not, but not too many who were at the same time destroying communities in their home town with poison and ordering murders, including innocent people on a rew occasions. This f**ker is a serious threat to society and should be sitting in a cell.
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Robbie Keane
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Posted: 11 Jun 2020 at 9:40am |
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The problem is, if it wasn't him it would be someone else. Now, that doesn't mean that I think he should be allowed become the next Barry Hearn without mention, quite the opposite, but the selling of drugs, which leads to the murders, is a societal issue that will always be there.
People like drugs and have always like drugs. Ireland has been ravaged by alcohol for centuries and everyone there is crying for the pubs to reopen and going as far as having a van come and pouring pints at the front door. Can you imagine the gangland wars if they made pints illegal? Decriminalise everything, as Portugal has, with very few negative effects, but many positive ones, and legalise things that are widespread anyway. May as well be making tax money from it. Unfortunately, this is too logically radical for many. I would imagine the calls to Joe Duffy would go through the roof and there would be drunk men on high stools the country over crying about the damage it would do. Personally, I would be far more upset that it's in Saudi Arabia again
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coyne
Paul McGrath 
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Posted: 11 Jun 2020 at 10:00am |
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What’s in Saudi Arabia? Is there something happening there?
I wouldn’t be writing off a knockout artist or an excellent inside fighter
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Robbie Keane
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Posted: 11 Jun 2020 at 10:03am |
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Unofficial reports say that it will be fought there and, financially, they will blow everyone else out of the water as the last fight was a very successful piece of sports washing.
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coyne
Paul McGrath
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Posted: 11 Jun 2020 at 10:08am |
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You've missed what I said yesterday.
There's 3 mandatory fights which have to happen before that fight can be sanctioned. I've read about it being in Saudi too but the timeline of it being confirmed won't even be this year! They're talking about holding Fury v Wilder 3 in Australia on Xmas Day which means he has 36 days to fight Dillian Whyte otherwise the belt goes to him and his stock goes to zero. |
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Roy Keane
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Posted: 11 Jun 2020 at 10:09am |
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No confirmation that the fight will be in Saudi - But nobody will be able to match the money they will put up for hosting the fight.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane
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I think everybody is aware that other fights need to be held first. Nobody is saying it is definitely happening. I was wrong to assume that this was obvious. Surely Fury won't fight on his saviour's birthday?
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Roy Keane
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You can ignore the Dillian Whyte fight - Won't be a factor here. Joshua v Pulev and Fury v Wilder are the only fights that will end up happening before Joshua v Fury (assuming both win). And I still reckon Fury v Wilder 3 ends up back in Vegas.
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coyne
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It is the biggest factor. There is a strict mandatory challenge in place that Whyte must receive a fight by February 1st 2021 otherwise he gets the belt, so even if Wilder won back the belt he would then have to fight Whyte within 36 days. Dillan's gone through some bullsh*t with false positive drug tests but it's ending quite nicely for him that there's absolutely no window where they can get a break from having to fight him - Bob Arum's already tried paying him off to withdraw his mandatory status and said no. |
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Roy Keane
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Posted: 11 Jun 2020 at 10:24am |
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Here is why it doesn't matter: - How long has Whyte been ranked as number 1 by the WBC? How close has he got to fighting for the title up till this point? I could nearly rest my case on this point alone. WBC don't care about Whyte. - Who promotes Whyte? Who promotes Joshua? Matchroom stand to make so much money off this fight that some of that money will be kicked Whyte's way if needed - If Fury threaten's to vacate the title before the AJ fight because the WBC are trying to make him fight Whyte, do you think the WBC will stand back, watch him do it and the do without their $250,00 sanctioning fee? I think not. - Get ready for a WBC regular champion and a WBC franchise champion.
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coyne
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You're probably correct on the last point!
But Dillan has been #1 contender for donkeys now, he had that false positive drug test which made the WBC revoke his mandatory status, it was only very recently they reinstated it but he has always been #2 on the rankings! |
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Not being nitpicky, but I read it as the fight on their Boxing/Stephens day, so do you mean having it on our Xmas day? or their Xmas day and our Xmas eve?
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I don't agree with THAT, in the workplace!
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coyne
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Completely forgot about Joshua having a mandatory against Usyk also.
WBO aren’t happy with the prospect of holding up the division which has thrown a spanner in the works. I feel like there’s too many complications for the unification fight to happen anytime soon, they both have 2 mandatories each, just fight them and the reward will be the lottery fight in Saudi.
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Roy Keane
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Posted: 11 Jun 2020 at 9:41pm |
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WBO mandatory comes after the IBF Mandatory (Pulev) and the champion gets a voluntary in between so no issue. Honestly, you can be full sure if both with their next fights, they will fight next after that.
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coyne
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Again you’re probably right but it was a direct quote from this afternoon the WBO want to see the mandatory fight before the undisputed.
WBO aren’t exactly known for patience either
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coyne
Paul McGrath
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Enjoyed the read about Wanheng Menayothin, the Thai Boxer who retired with a record of 54-0
The problem is all of his fights were against either journeymen or bury the hopes of prospects. His last fight was against someone with a record of 6-44
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Robbie Keane
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Mike Tyson to fight Roy Jones Jnr in an exhibition fight on the 12th September in LA
Jesus Wept
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
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coyne
Paul McGrath
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Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 7:58pm |
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Seen this, didn't bother talking about it because it's 2 blokes with the combined age of 105 fighting only 8 rounds with 12 oz gloves, back in their primes they used 8oz's
Ryan Garcia supposedly fighting Artem Lobov as the co-main also.
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