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A pivotal day in the Irish War of Independence. The impact that the early morning killings, almost exactly 100 years ago to the moment as I write this, had on the castle administration can't be understated. (My own grand uncle was part of the group who assassinated a British Intelligence Operative at Morehampton Road.)

The Croke Park Massacre that followed later in the day only served to the Irish publics resolve. Like it's name same up north 50 years later, the British government held a sham enquiry of which no one was ever found guilty 
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

A pivotal day in the Irish War of Independence. The impact that the early morning killings, almost exactly 100 years ago to the moment as I write this, had on the castle administration can't be understated. (My own grand uncle was part of the group who assassinated a British Intelligence Operative at Morehampton Road.)

The Croke Park Massacre that followed later in the day only served to the Irish publics resolve. Like it's name same up north 50 years later, the British government held a sham enquiry of which no one was ever found guilty 


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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

A pivotal day in the Irish War of Independence. The impact that the early morning killings, almost exactly 100 years ago to the moment as I write this, had on the castle administration can't be understated. (My own grand uncle was part of the group who assassinated a British Intelligence Operative at Morehampton Road.)

The Croke Park Massacre that followed later in the day only served to the Irish publics resolve. Like it's name same up north 50 years later, the British government held a sham enquiry of which no one was ever found guilty 

And an innocent civilian and wounded another!

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Edited by nvidic - 21 Nov 2020 at 10:36am
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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

A pivotal day in the Irish War of Independence. The impact that the early morning killings, almost exactly 100 years ago to the moment as I write this, had on the castle administration can't be understated. (My own grand uncle was part of the group who assassinated a British Intelligence Operative at Morehampton Road.)

The Croke Park Massacre that followed later in the day only served to the Irish publics resolve. Like it's name same up north 50 years later, the British government held a sham enquiry of which no one was ever found guilty 

And an innocent civilian and wounded another!

Everything else is spot on Clap



That's not definitive. The landlord, a Mr Smith, is alleged to have been a Castle informer. I've read the first hand accounts of some of the men who took part (inc. My grand uncle) in the military archives. He's referenced as a spy or intelligence agents in a few of them.

Now it's very plausible of course that this how they remembered  things retrospectively. It may have helped their conscious' to do so. Alot of the men suffered psychologically in later life. We'll never know for sure.

Certainly Lt McClean, who they killed, was a high ranking intelligence agent in the castle 
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Was Michael Hogan not shot at the Canal End?
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

A pivotal day in the Irish War of Independence. The impact that the early morning killings, almost exactly 100 years ago to the moment as I write this, had on the castle administration can't be understated. (My own grand uncle was part of the group who assassinated a British Intelligence Operative at Morehampton Road.)

The Croke Park Massacre that followed later in the day only served to the Irish publics resolve. Like it's name same up north 50 years later, the British government held a sham enquiry of which no one was ever found guilty 

And an innocent civilian and wounded another!

Everything else is spot on Clap



That's not definitive. The landlord, a Mr Smith, is alleged to have been a Castle informer. I've read the first hand accounts of some of the men who took part (inc. My grand uncle) in the military archives. He's referenced as a spy or intelligence agents in a few of them.

Now it's very plausible of course that this how they remembered  things retrospectively. It may have helped their conscious' to do so. Alot of the men suffered psychologically in later life. We'll never know for sure.

Certainly Lt McClean, who they killed, was a high ranking intelligence agent in the castle 

Interesting, you'd certainly hope that was the case for all of them. 
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Originally posted by Neil Armstrong Neil Armstrong wrote:

Was Michael Hogan not shot at the Canal End?


No.  The Carlisle Grounds.
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