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Originally posted by tipp86 tipp86 wrote:

Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Originally posted by tipp86 tipp86 wrote:

Originally posted by irish_major irish_major wrote:

Most simple thing to do is open up a PP phone account, they treble the odds of your first 50 quid bet! Simples 

Sure but why not safeguard that €50 by laying the bet elsewhere.

Im not even sure if the above statement you made is 100% correct and would have to see it in writing to believe it.

Lets assume it is true. Put €50 on a 4/1 shot they treble odds you  claim. Now you stand to win €600 on the bet. Lay them at 5.1 on betfair for €205 and then stand to make €395 risk free.

By all means do the SIMPLE thing and risk your hard earned money. Im just here to offer guys advise on free insurance considering how financially tough i see people are finding this trip.




Well, the best way is to put €50 on a 4/1 shot, trebled you win €600. Lay on betfair at 5.1, but lay €325. If the bet wins, you make €600 off paddy power but lose €325 on betfair (€275 profit). If the bet loses, you lose €50 with paddy power but make €325 on betfair (again a €275 profit). All around winning!!

Think your maths is a little off as 5.1 on betfair is 4.1/1 in normal terms. Fractions & decimals. Its most likely my fault as i probably overlapped them in my writings above. If anyone wants detailed explanations of what to do il try and help via pm.


You're right sorry. Put your €50 on a 4/1 shot with paddy power, trebled to 12/1, you make €600 if it comes in. Lay on betfair at 5.1, €543.44, if the bet comes in, you make €56.56 profit. If the bet doesn't come in, you lose €50 with paddy power and make €106.56 (€543.44/5.1) on betfair, €56.56 profit.

Not €325 or €395, but free money nonetheless.
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€60 on at 4's, €50 matched so €500 back and will throw €20 in us to finish second to spain as well
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Originally posted by tipp86 tipp86 wrote:

Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Originally posted by tipp86 tipp86 wrote:

Originally posted by irish_major irish_major wrote:

Most simple thing to do is open up a PP phone account, they treble the odds of your first 50 quid bet! Simples 

Sure but why not safeguard that €50 by laying the bet elsewhere.

Im not even sure if the above statement you made is 100% correct and would have to see it in writing to believe it.

Lets assume it is true. Put €50 on a 4/1 shot they treble odds you  claim. Now you stand to win €600 on the bet. Lay them at 5.1 on betfair for €205 and then stand to make €395 risk free.

By all means do the SIMPLE thing and risk your hard earned money. Im just here to offer guys advise on free insurance considering how financially tough i see people are finding this trip.




Well, the best way is to put €50 on a 4/1 shot, trebled you win €600. Lay on betfair at 5.1, but lay €325. If the bet wins, you make €600 off paddy power but lose €325 on betfair (€275 profit). If the bet loses, you lose €50 with paddy power but make €325 on betfair (again a €275 profit). All around winning!!

Think your maths is a little off as 5.1 on betfair is 4.1/1 in normal terms. Fractions & decimals. Its most likely my fault as i probably overlapped them in my writings above. If anyone wants detailed explanations of what to do il try and help via pm.


You're right sorry. Put your €50 on a 4/1 shot with paddy power, trebled to 12/1, you make €600 if it comes in. Lay on betfair at 5.1, €543.44, if the bet comes in, you make €56.56 profit. If the bet doesn't come in, you lose €50 with paddy power and make €106.56 (€543.44/5.1) on betfair, €56.56 profit.

Not €325 or €395, but free money nonetheless.
Free money agreed, alot of an outlay though! I dont understand why simple is in huge writing, it kind of cares me! Anyway, ill just be throwing the 50 something i think is value on paddypower before hand, maybe a 4/1 shot. Make 600 big ones if it comes in. 
However for anyone wanting to back Ireland to qualify from the group I would suggest this is the best way of doing it
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Originally posted by tipp86 tipp86 wrote:

Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Originally posted by tipp86 tipp86 wrote:

Originally posted by irish_major irish_major wrote:

Most simple thing to do is open up a PP phone account, they treble the odds of your first 50 quid bet! Simples 

Sure but why not safeguard that €50 by laying the bet elsewhere.

Im not even sure if the above statement you made is 100% correct and would have to see it in writing to believe it.

Lets assume it is true. Put €50 on a 4/1 shot they treble odds you  claim. Now you stand to win €600 on the bet. Lay them at 5.1 on betfair for €205 and then stand to make €395 risk free.

By all means do the SIMPLE thing and risk your hard earned money. Im just here to offer guys advise on free insurance considering how financially tough i see people are finding this trip.




Well, the best way is to put €50 on a 4/1 shot, trebled you win €600. Lay on betfair at 5.1, but lay €325. If the bet wins, you make €600 off paddy power but lose €325 on betfair (€275 profit). If the bet loses, you lose €50 with paddy power but make €325 on betfair (again a €275 profit). All around winning!!

Think your maths is a little off as 5.1 on betfair is 4.1/1 in normal terms. Fractions & decimals. Its most likely my fault as i probably overlapped them in my writings above. If anyone wants detailed explanations of what to do il try and help via pm.


You're right sorry. Put your €50 on a 4/1 shot with paddy power, trebled to 12/1, you make €600 if it comes in. Lay on betfair at 5.1, €543.44, if the bet comes in, you make €56.56 profit. If the bet doesn't come in, you lose €50 with paddy power and make €106.56 (€543.44/5.1) on betfair, €56.56 profit.

Not €325 or €395, but free money nonetheless.

Ya i cant be bothered doing the math to see if your correct or not as the treble the odds bet is bullsh*t as i expected it to be. This is not a possible offer to get from PP as i rang them.

The offer available is bet €50 get a €50 free bet

Everything i explained above is possible with the above offer as that was what i was basing it on. In short use your first €50 bet on a prem match and use the €50 free bet on the Irish bet. Lay the first bet that is real money on betfair and ensure you have a risk free bet.

@Irish Major. My emphasis on the SIMPLE word is that sure go ahead gamble away your money if ya want. Im just offering people €50 free for 20 minutes work. They could essentially make €45 euro in €20 miinutes or else have a €50 free bet on Ireland @4/1.

If i told you there was €45 euro free if you drive over the road 20 minutes would you do it?

Even if i was filthy rich simple would not be for me its not in my nature. 

Oh yes and you mention a huge outlay. Without fully researching i would guess its a €200 outlay. If someone told you that you could go to the shop and buy €245 for €200 would you go to the shop?



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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

How much are people putting on Ireland to qualify to cover getting to Kiev?? Odds have been cut since people started doing it which is a kick in the balls. Think will put €60 down @ 4's which will give me €50 matched on a new account, gives €500 back
I got 5/1 with William Hill to qualify and bet €200.
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Originally posted by wicklowrunner wicklowrunner wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

How much are people putting on Ireland to qualify to cover getting to Kiev?? Odds have been cut since people started doing it which is a kick in the balls. Think will put €60 down @ 4's which will give me €50 matched on a new account, gives €500 back
I got 5/1 with William Hill to qualify and bet €200.
Coming home from Poland after Italy game and hopefully heading back out.
 

The current best price is 9/2 with bwin.
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Originally posted by wicklowrunner wicklowrunner wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

How much are people putting on Ireland to qualify to cover getting to Kiev?? Odds have been cut since people started doing it which is a kick in the balls. Think will put €60 down @ 4's which will give me €50 matched on a new account, gives €500 back
I got 5/1 with William Hill to qualify and bet €200.
Coming home from Poland after Italy game and hopefully heading back out.
 


Remember you posting that before and stuck in my head was was sickened when I missed it! Have refundable accom in Kiev for €55 for two nights so €450 should cover me for travel and expenses fingers crossed
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F**k me, I've never been so confused reading a thread!!

You put 50 on at 5.1 and get 500 at 4/1 and put that free bet on with PP and get 4's on Ireland and then you come win 600!?!?!  AARRGGHH Wacko
WTF - somebody simplify this for me please.......in 1 sentence please!!
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Cheers for the heads up on that 9/1 nvidic
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Originally posted by grazza grazza wrote:

F**k me, I've never been so confused reading a thread!!

You put 50 on at 5.1 and get 500 at 4/1 and put that free bet on with PP and get 4's on Ireland and then you come win 600!?!?!  AARRGGHH Wacko
WTF - somebody simplify this for me please.......in 1 sentence please!!

In one sentence 

"Follow my instructions and you get a free bet on Ireland with no risk."

I decided to simplify this for guys ok

1. Open a new PP account ( has to be new )

2. Open a betfair account or use your current account with them.

3. Place €50 on PP for Fulham to beat Sunderland.

4. Lay Fulham on Betfair for €51 ( your liability ( what you can lose ) will be €49.47.

5. Potential Result 

Fulham win you have €47.62 profit with PP and lose €49.47 on Betfair = €1.85 loss

Fulham lose means you lose €50 on PP and win €51 - 5% commision €2.55 = €48.45 = €1.55 loss

6. Both options result in a small loss but for this small loss we get a €50 free bet on Ireland @ 4/1. This roughly gives us a €1.55 bet @ odds of 129/1.

Its not one sentence but surely its simplified. Again if anyone has any confusion il happily help via pm/facebook/phone.

Now people dont ever be saying the new posters since the euros arent helpful. Give the 1 post guys a chance.
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Originally posted by tipp86 tipp86 wrote:

Originally posted by grazza grazza wrote:

F**k me, I've never been so confused reading a thread!!

You put 50 on at 5.1 and get 500 at 4/1 and put that free bet on with PP and get 4's on Ireland and then you come win 600!?!?!  AARRGGHH Wacko
WTF - somebody simplify this for me please.......in 1 sentence please!!

In one sentence 

"Follow my instructions and you get a free bet on Ireland with no risk."

I decided to simplify this for guys ok

1. Open a new PP account ( has to be new )

2. Open a betfair account or use your current account with them.

3. Place €50 on PP for Fulham to beat Sunderland.

4. Lay Fulham on Betfair for €51 ( your liability ( what you can lose ) will be €49.47.

5. Potential Result 

Fulham win you have €47.62 profit with PP and lose €49.47 on Betfair = €1.85 loss

Fulham lose means you lose €50 on PP and win €51 - 5% commision €2.55 = €48.45 = €1.55 loss

6. Both options result in a small loss but for this small loss we get a €50 free bet on Ireland @ 4/1. This roughly gives us a €1.55 bet @ odds of 129/1.

Its not one sentence but surely its simplified. Again if anyone has any confusion il happily help via pm/facebook/phone.

Now people dont ever be saying the new posters since the euros arent helpful. Give the 1 post guys a chance.

Jaysus thats alot better! Thanks alot! Clap
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I'll be taking the 9/1 as well, 2nd to Spain.
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What happens if its a draw LOL
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What happens if its a draw LOL

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Just a note, you have to sign up from the promotional link to be entitled to a free 50 euro bet. They seem to have taken it of the homepage but i found it here:
http://www.paddypower.com/betting/about-us/
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Originally posted by mouldymould mouldymould wrote:

Just a note, you have to sign up from the promotional link to be entitled to a free 50 euro bet. They seem to have taken it of the homepage but i found it here:
http://www.paddypower.com/betting/about-us/
 
So you only get a 25 euro free bet really.
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Originally posted by Mr.Mojo Risin' Mr.Mojo Risin' wrote:

Originally posted by mouldymould mouldymould wrote:

Just a note, you have to sign up from the promotional link to be entitled to a free 50 euro bet. They seem to have taken it of the homepage but i found it here:
http://www.paddypower.com/betting/about-us/
 
So you only get a 25 euro free bet really.


The 25 euro thing is an old offer. I just placed the 50 euro free bet on Ireland to qualify at 10/3.
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