Barcelona

Bob Hoskins wrote: I read that Dembele would cost 135million, he scored 6 goals last year wtf. No wonder the clubs are so adamant they are not selling they're players, what good is 100m to Liverpool when anyone else is gonna be just as expensive and not as good

Dembele got 6 goals last season

Bob Hoskins wrote: He has done nothing in the game, and Mbappe can also be accused of that, they're spending fortunes on potential - that may be weak willed, not as good as thought etc. So the prices for these young players are f**ked. Neymar, Coutinhio and Lukaku have all played a few seasons and you know what your getting.

coyne wrote: ... generally for youth it's all about re-sale value, I made an explanation about it when people disputed £30 million for Jordan Pickford.  Same goes for Ousmane he could be at the same club for a good 7-10 years, that's 10-15 million per season + the goals he scores + the final transfer fee they'll get. If he can tick all of those boxes then 100 million in 10 years time will seem like deal of the century.

Tend to agree with your point about young players' transfer fees being amortised (correct word?) over a long period, but you also need to take into account that you are also paying their wages over a long period, including for that percentage of young players who don't make the grade (Balotelli anyone?)

And when it comes to re-sale values, that only comes into play if/when they've improved, a risk you have to take if you're a selling club like Everton.

But unless the Neymar* transfer somehow overturns the existing world order, traditionally Barca have never bought players on the basis that they can sell him for a profit at some future date.

Like great/wealthy clubs have always done, when they buy players for big money, those players are invariably at, or approaching, their peak. And after having got the best years of their career from them, the club quickly dispenses with them for whatever they can get, the moment they've reached their sell-by date.


* - I wonder is it possible that Neymar's sale reveals that Barca are now feeling the squeeze financially, in a way that never bothered them before? Maybe the continued growth of the EPL, plus the emergence of China, is taking its toll? Add to which La Masia may not be producing quite the same quality as in previous years, there's still no Pep Mk.II on the horizon, and they've got a big bill ahead of them to redevelop the stadium. Maybe the test will be whether they can still steam roll Liverpool over Coutinho in the way they did over Suarez?

Edited by Territorial - 10 Aug 2017 at 4:27pm

coyne wrote: Neymar's sale was a contract buyout. If they wanted to keep him they'd have to offer bigger contract, more loyalty fees, more agent fees, more copyright fees.

So pay it. They're Barca, after all.

coyne wrote: And probably an offer they'll never get in their lifetime so they thought f**k it we'll cope without him

"Cope"?

If you're serious about being the best football team in the world, which Barca have always been, what is the point of having the most money?

You need the best players in the world, so what message does this sale send out to other top players, both at the club or those thinking of joining?

Besides which, Neymar is still only 25, whilst Messi and Suarez have both turned 30.

Edited by Territorial - 10 Aug 2017 at 11:52pm

According to sky sources they've agreed terms for Coutinho and Dembele

lassassinblanc wrote: According to sky sources they've agreed terms for Coutinho and Dembele

Fookin hell i did not know there was that much money in the punditry buisness

HuntysCousin wrote: lassassinblanc wrote: According to sky sources they've agreed terms for Coutinho and Dembele Are Sky really trying to claim that one? The Barca general manager said it on tv last night shur

Yep hilarious how they cling on to things saying they got an exclusive.

like Joselu to Newcastle Chronicle had been reporting that for about 3 weeks