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roverstillidie
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Bitored
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I agree with you but like I`ve said I can see why they have problems. Its not as simple as saying there`s a catchment area of 30,000 they should be getting guaranteed semi decent crowds. Sporting Fingal, Dublin City, Kildare, Kilkenny et.al operated on a similar assumption and went tits up. A club is a community and its very difficult to form a community in a college where many of those 30,000 are from outside the area/country, some are distance learners, some are part time, some commute into Belfield from all over the commuter belt, some are on work experience, some have zero interest in the LOI and never will etc. I think if UCD operated in a league where there were teams with star quality they may do better. But the league just doesn't have the a big name/appeal to significantly boost the attendances of a collegiate side. As I`ve said already, in my view the best thing for UCD and the league would be if UCD and Cabinteely formed a co-op side in partnership with 2 or 3 big south side junior clubs. A platform they could use to represent the south side of Dublin, which despite the saturation of Dublin clubs remains underrepresented. That makes more sense to me than Cabinteely and UCD playing in front of no one. No reason UCD couldn't maintain a FD side and their current U15,U17 and U19 sides and continue the great work they do bringing though quality players. That kind of strategic thinking just isn't in the league and we`re set up for another scramble in the not too distant future when the next club goes to the wall and there`s a mad dash to see does any other Dublin junior club fancy a few years in the LOI.
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I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona
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Daragho
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They're hardly alone there, though. I know Pats crowds have been poor for some time but if you bury your head in the sand and pretend you don't have a problem then you're not going to fix it.
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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I think the situation was different for at least three of the four clubs mentioned, they were just pop-up franchises that were doomed to failure from the beginning, Kilkenny being the only one mentioned that had grown organically and the only one that was a shame to see fold up. I don't think UCD should be guaranteed any crowd but if they work at it they could get decent crowds. I know a lot of Cork City's hardcore fans down the years have been UCC students who enjoyed a trip to the Cross with no expectations, why couldn't they do the same with their own? Lots of people have an allegiance to their college side and I would be certain that they would have far bigger crowds at Collingwood Cup games than LOI fixtures. It just seems that because they don't really need the ticket money desperately that they are not bothered by it. I wasn't in favour of Cabinteely joining the league, I hate this idea of selecting a team from nowhere and the inevitable messy end but some sort of link-up would probably work well for both teams alright.
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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That could be the league's mantra though.
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wanderer
Ray Houghton Joined: 19 Nov 2015 Status: Offline Points: 3104 |
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Much more than 650 at Bray. sounds like a made up figure
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gspain
Ray Houghton Joined: 21 Apr 2010 Status: Offline Points: 4676 |
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It was announced over the PA. I thought it was 641 that was announced but maybe I misheard as someone has claimed 649. I reckon we had the guts of 150 too of that. The board appear to have invested serious money in the current Bray squad. Some of the claims on here re property plays etc just don't make sense. They clearly are trying to build a successful squad.
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Bitored
Ray Houghton Joined: 25 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 3893 |
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In the absence of a pyramid structure every club in this league is a franchise club. If you actually go through the history of clubs in the league you`ll find they've dissolved and reformed on multiple occasions. It goes under the radar because years ago it used to be much more simple to dissolve a holding company than it is today. Some clubs have switched to entirely different areas to where they were originally based. Many clubs are simply claiming the trophies and history of clubs they have tentative connections with at best. In it`s near 100 year history the league hasn't made much inroads out of its geographical heartlands. That all sounds very like a franchise to me. I think I`d disagree Kilkenny grew organically, they were parachuting in a lot of outsiders and very few of their players lived locally. Listen I'm no expert on UCD`s marketing strategy. They`ve always struggled with crowds even when they were in the PD. Its a big ask to sell LOI football to students when they have the option of getting drunk and stoned. |
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Bitored
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The claims on here about property development are based in reality. A few months back the owners released their strategic plan and moving out of the Carlisle Grounds/Bray Town was specifically mentioned and in some detail too. Subsequently, the council had a meeting with the Bray owners and they pulled their necks back in but make no mistake about it, its a property grab.
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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I agree with a lot of that, just when I say Kilkenny grew organically I mean they were created as EMFA as a local club that grew stronger, unfortunately they were probably never managed right when they made LOI level but it was certainly a more natural way for a club to exist than Sporting Fingal or Dublin City. I just don't thin UCD have a marketing strategy as they don't feel they need one. They are not reliant on getting people through the gate the way other clubs in the league are so they don't really bother. I could be a million miles off here, I am sure a UCD fan or student can tell me what they have done to increase crowds if I am wrong.
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deise316
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Fair enough, might have misread yer post. Probably not for this thread, but I don't really know why anyone would turn up to the aviva expecting us to play good football, it happened V Bosnia, and we were good in parts of the Germany & Poland games in the last campaign, but overall, we are not a good team to watch, especially at home, and we haven't been for years. The Georgia home game was as poor as anything seen under Trap, but we got the result, the Scotland drawn home game of 2 years ago not much better, I've long given up on friendlies, even if you play well in those games, it tends to mean very little in the long run. We had a decent Euros on the back of another awful game V Belarus in Cork, just to give one example. Arsene Wenger said more than a decade ago that the standard of international football is declining, and I can't see how anyone could disagree with that. Euro SF's or not, Wales proved as average as we are, Scotland were lucky, England were workmanlike, Holland have fallen off a cliff and Blind got sacked, I didn't see too many other games but I doubt too many of them were riveting, it isn't just us. |
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Bitored
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Week 7 Shams v Harps - 2510Limerick V Cork - 2989 Bohemians V Pats - 2600 Derry V Bray - 1600 Dundalk V Drogheda - 3015 Galway V Sligo - 1172 Longford V Waterford - 401 Shelbourne V Wexford - 465 Cobh V UCD - 200 (estimate) Athlone V Cabinteely - 150 (estimate) Edited by Bitored - 03 Apr 2017 at 9:03pm |
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I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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5275 is the figure I saw for Turners Cross tonight, hanging onto most of those that went to Dundalk.
1600 odd is the figure going around for Waterford's win against Cobh. 477 is the only other figure I have seen mentioned and that was for Bray Wanderers.
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nvidic
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Absolutely brutal for us, completely unsustainable. A shame as great crowd there day one.
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Is that figure accurate then? I'm not sure how you could have the fourth highest budget and potentially the smallest gate receipts, something will give.
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Dugs
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Whoever the money men are in bray i doubt attendence figures came into it much in the planning.
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Bitored
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They lost 1500 from the game against Dundalk, otherwise known as the average league attendance. To be fair though they are too very good crowds back to back.
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I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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The past few full hoses have been followed up with crowds of around 3000, unquestionably an improvement but was no doubt helped by the opposition and the form. If we can't get 5k plus now we will never get them!
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