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Just waiting for Gazza to turn up in Ankara in his dressing gown holding a fishing rod and a cooked chicken claiming to know Erdogan


   



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All this is making Turkey an even easier target for extremist attacks
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Just waiting for the UK's new foreign secretary Boris Johnson to have his say in all of this LOL
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Doesn't appear to be complete control of all of the army factions. Reports of a helicopter shot down by a fighter jet.
Wouldn't fancy being stuck in a plane on the tarmac of Istanbul airport right now.
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Coup seemingly on the way to being defeated, depending on whose twitter feed ya believe in. Crucially doesn't seem to have the backing of all the military, though the display of tanks on the streets etc would make you think it was backed by a reasonably substantial part of it. 


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BBC reporting that Turkish Special forces against coup. Turkey's stance on ISIS may have something to do with it
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Crazy footage of civilians throwing pro-coup soldiers out of government buildings and random people climbing on tanks to prevent them from moving.
It seems like the civilian support for Erdogan wasn't anticipated and has badly backfired for them.

1 thing I haven't figured out is who are people staging the coup, and why?
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Could we be looking at the start of a civil war? Or will it be an Egypt type outcome.
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Crazy footage of civilians throwing pro-coup soldiers out of government buildings and random people climbing on tanks to prevent them from moving.
It seems like the civilian support for Erdogan wasn't anticipated and has badly backfired for them.

1 thing I haven't figured out is who are people staging the coup, and why?

This Gulen lad seems to be the most likely instigator, the Guardian put this on their live feed earlier.


Gives an example of what he has been trying to do. One thing is very clear; this is very unclear!
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Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

Could we be looking at the start of a civil war? Or will it be an Egypt type outcome.
From what I have been reading , the former seems more likely, there are a lot more variables here though which means anything is possible. If the public believe it was the Gulen factor I mentioned above then they aren't trying to stop it out of any love for Erdogan, more a lesser of two evils type scenario. There might then become an attempt at removing Erdogan too, he certainly isn't universally popular! When you factor in the Kurds and ISIS into the situation then you are looking at a possible civil war or, at the very least, chaotic carnage for a period of time.
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Gulen has condemned the coup in the last few minutes.

From what I've read,Erdogan has been trying to reduce the powers and authority of the military,and has tried to take the country away from their secular views.Obviously a few boyos in the army aren't having that
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Originally posted by HuntysCousin HuntysCousin wrote:

Gulen has condemned the coup in the last few minutes.

From what I've read,Erdogan has been trying to reduce the powers and authority of the military,and has tried to take the country away from their secular views.Obviously a few boyos in the army aren't having that
I still wouldn't take his condemnation too seriously. If it was the latter then I believe they would get more public support. The whole thing is still very unclear though.
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Bomb reported at the Turkish parliament.

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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by HuntysCousin HuntysCousin wrote:

Gulen has condemned the coup in the last few minutes.

From what I've read,Erdogan has been trying to reduce the powers and authority of the military,and has tried to take the country away from their secular views.Obviously a few boyos in the army aren't having that
I still wouldn't take his condemnation too seriously. If it was the latter then I believe they would get more public support. The whole thing is still very unclear though.

I'm guessing the opposition to the coup is because of the fact that is exactly that,a forced attempt to take control.Autocracy wouldn't be the most popular way to rule.A lot of Egyptians have been tweeting about how the Turks need to learn from their mistake.If Erdogan comes out of this,he'll have even more power
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Maybe in Istanbul. The majority voted for Erdogen. Hard to know what's going on. See alot of soldiers being 'escorted' away by police and what looks like civilians.
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Originally posted by HuntysCousin HuntysCousin wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by HuntysCousin HuntysCousin wrote:

Gulen has condemned the coup in the last few minutes.

From what I've read,Erdogan has been trying to reduce the powers and authority of the military,and has tried to take the country away from their secular views.Obviously a few boyos in the army aren't having that
I still wouldn't take his condemnation too seriously. If it was the latter then I believe they would get more public support. The whole thing is still very unclear though.

I'm guessing the opposition to the coup is because of the fact that is exactly that,a forced attempt to take control.Autocracy wouldn't be the most popular way to rule.A lot of Egyptians have been tweeting about how the Turks need to learn from their mistake.If Erdogan comes out of this,he'll have even more power
I wonder if Erdogan can come out of this though, once people are mobilised and the coup is defeated, what then?The divide over Erdogan is deep enough to cause further chaos, even if the coup is defeated.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by HuntysCousin HuntysCousin wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by HuntysCousin HuntysCousin wrote:

Gulen has condemned the coup in the last few minutes.

From what I've read,Erdogan has been trying to reduce the powers and authority of the military,and has tried to take the country away from their secular views.Obviously a few boyos in the army aren't having that
I still wouldn't take his condemnation too seriously. If it was the latter then I believe they would get more public support. The whole thing is still very unclear though.

I'm guessing the opposition to the coup is because of the fact that is exactly that,a forced attempt to take control.Autocracy wouldn't be the most popular way to rule.A lot of Egyptians have been tweeting about how the Turks need to learn from their mistake.If Erdogan comes out of this,he'll have even more power
I wonder if Erdogan can come out of this though, once people are mobilised and the coup is defeated, what then?The divide over Erdogan is deep enough to cause further chaos, even if the coup is defeated.

It's fascinating,ver intrigued about what happens next

Reports that the man himself is landing in Ataturk airport 
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So many reports and conflicting reports and no actual live broadcasts from within the country - Social Media has been blocked also. 

It's all very confusing to what's going on!
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