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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39824 |
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Seany Fitz is a legend and should be rewarded
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Shamrock
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What can you say really. What sort of system lets a **** like him go scot free? There are many who are complicit in this from law makers to politicians. Reflects very badly on this government who came in on the promise of change and a lot of goodwill but have done a steady if very unspectacular job.
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39824 |
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Enda Kenny is making him Minister for Finance
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da scientist
Liam Brady I've a tiny micky Joined: 09 Jan 2012 Location: Perth Status: Offline Points: 1706 |
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vote no.1 the labour party!!
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The main thing is not to panic
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RogerMilla
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Couldn't be worse than Charlie McReevy. A far bigger gangster than Seanie Fitz |
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The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own.
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The Huntacha
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Not surprised but still disgusted. All we can hope now is that he gets done on the other charges that SD talked about there.
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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In fairness, he wasn't involved in the day to day running of the bank at the time. Had David Drumm been on trial rather than hiding in 'Murica, I'd say we'd have the lynching some are looking for.
Thankfully though, we have the rule of law and a jury that have sat through twelve weeks of a trial, heard all the evidence proffered by the State and deliberated on it for days have reached a verdict on that basis, rather than on the basis of what the populist papers and tv news soundbites tell them. |
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Devrozex
Jack Charlton Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 7676 |
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I'm afraid this country's 'rule of law' is a sad joke, and this has only been further evidenced by the outcome to this trail. Seems all too easy for those convicted of severe white collar crime to slime away via one avenue or another. Surely if this trial took place in somewhere like the States, under US law, these three absolute chancers would be looking at some serious jail time.
Let's just keep our fingers crossed that Seanie Fitz doesn't pay some minor fine or other - he should be hunted down like a dog then.
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/se%C3%A1n-fitzpatrick-acquittal-defence-rested-on-his-hands-off-role-at-anglo-1.1764390 Seanie wasn't guilty here: Drumm was the main man. Seanie was a non-executive Chairman, not involved in the day to day running of the business. More to the point, this trial isn't over. The jury are still deliberating in respect of the other two lads. In respect of your bit in bold, two questions: 1) did you sit through the twelve weeks of evidence along with the jury; 2) do you not have faith in trial by a jury of your peers? If the answer to the first one is no, then what are you basing your lack of faith in the verdict on, and if the answer to the second one is no, then why not, where the jury have sat through all the evidence first hand and you haven't? It's very, very easy to criticise the jury system but it's very very hard to prove, from a distance, that the decision was wrong. Seanie hasn't been convicted on anything, at least in respect of the Maple 10 and Quinn loans, after a trial by a jury of his peers. The fact is that the loans to Irish Nationwide issue is still outstanding. |
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Devrozex
Jack Charlton Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 7676 |
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1) I was not. 2) I have exceptionally little faith in our legal and indeed political system, more so than the jury that arrived at this verdict.
As you say the issue with the loans to IN is still in the pipeline, but I think it's safe to say that I, and I would imagine many others, are not expecting a different result. This trial has received global coverage and yet again we have made ourselves into an absolute laughing stock. As another poster has pointed out also once again it'll be left to Mr. Taxpayer to foot the bill for this show trial. Between all this garbage and the incumbent government's current policies it's amazing there aren't even more people emigrating imo.
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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If it was a show trial in the traditional sense, Seanie wouldn't have got a fair hearing and would have been summarily convicted. As it was, he received a fair trial and was acquitted by a jury of his peers. I have no difficulty with the result. |
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Stillhuntinghenry
Jack Charlton useless at posting links Joined: 23 Nov 2011 Status: Offline Points: 8149 |
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I thought the judge directed an acquittal rather than the jury deliberating on the evidence and finding him not guilty.
To be fair I haven't really been followingit just picking up bits here and there |
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"Not one cent" - RTID on Mark Quigley's pay-off from Shamrock
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Saint Tom
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My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham
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Hoosay
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Whelan and McAteer guilty on charges of providing unlawful loans to the maple 10, not guilty on chaeges of providing unlawful loans to the Quinns.
Sentencing on the 28th.
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horsebox
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What sort of sentence are they looking at? No doubt a suspended one |
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When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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corkery
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The Government and the Judiciary are completely seperate.
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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Stillhuntinghenry
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[e. Edited by Stillhuntinghenry - 17 Apr 2014 at 5:22pm |
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"Not one cent" - RTID on Mark Quigley's pay-off from Shamrock
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Stillhuntinghenry
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That's the theory anyway |
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"Not one cent" - RTID on Mark Quigley's pay-off from Shamrock
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