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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Online Points: 39759 |
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Posted: 30 Dec 2015 at 9:34pm |
Heard a few cases of scams on this where you pay for a fictional place or imitating a genuine place and you end up losing your money. I myself have already paid up front 344 euro for a house in Bordeaux for 2 nights. On my credit card bill it does say 'Airbnb' for the amount but still wonder if everything is above board. One reason being that I was sent a request to Jeannie who owned the house and described us as football supporters there for the Euro. I thought it best to be honest but she accepted the request to stay within an hour without issue (too quick?). Just wondering in retrospect was this too good to be true type of thing. Probably being overly paranoid but googled some stories there about the airbanb scams and it's hard to know.
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Ray Houghton Joined: 16 Oct 2014 Status: Offline Points: 3358 |
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Its not even "Panic Saturday" ... Not even the new year & your resolution is being implemented by starting new threads
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Shedite
Jack Charlton Joined: 09 Dec 2011 Status: Offline Points: 9815 |
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Does she have any reviews?
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Online Points: 39759 |
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Yes she has 5 but only has been a member since August 2015. All reviews are by French people. |
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Hickster74
Davey Langan Joined: 20 Oct 2015 Location: Depends Status: Offline Points: 931 |
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Used it a few times, Trap and I'm sure Airbnb hold the payment in escrow until first night of stay has passed (nice extra earner sitting on that cash I'm sure...). Check the T&Cs.
So I don't see how such a scam would work if the renter lets Airbnb know of a problem, the owner doesn't get paid and you get your money back...I'd be more worried about an owner changing their mind than being ripped off. You might want to change the topic title there, a bit unfair for Airbnb's rep ... |
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"Perhaps the reason that they did not consider the worst, was because discussion of such cases would have cast suspicion on the planner as being a "saboteur". Paranoia was rampant throughout."
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UCDFAN
Liam Brady Joined: 10 May 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1700 |
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I used it for Wales, the STG exchange plus £6.00 per night to AirBnB was the only negative aspect of the stay.
Do you get the impression of owner occupier in Bordeaux? I'm sure many residents in different cities will move out altogether and rent their property (sublet) for the duration of that town's involvement.
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Butch
Ray Houghton Joined: 16 Oct 2014 Status: Offline Points: 3358 |
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Mine went through similar time & showed up on CC Air BnB with payment taken for 2 nights in Bordeaux . You must be staying in some pad for that cash as mine wasn't near as much & it is quality . You must have alot of friends going with you
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Hickster74
Davey Langan Joined: 20 Oct 2015 Location: Depends Status: Offline Points: 931 |
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I used it in Bordeaux last year and it was perfect - no issues at all. Nothing to do with Bordeaux in particular but just what can happen in any town that hits peak demand. I don't know what the story is if an owner changes their mind later on and tries to gazump people closer to the time. Check T&Cs - hopefully there are penalties if they do that now.
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"Perhaps the reason that they did not consider the worst, was because discussion of such cases would have cast suspicion on the planner as being a "saboteur". Paranoia was rampant throughout."
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xRedmanLFCx
Davey Langan Joined: 10 Jul 2015 Status: Offline Points: 994 |
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Used it for the first time going to Liverpool last month, told them it was 2 lads over for a soccer match and it was accepted in a matter of minutes. Absolutely no problems, they had loads of reviews before I booked.
Also booked a night in Bordeaux for the night before the match and 2 nights in Lille for the night before and night of the match, both booked in places that have 40+ good reviews. Took 3 efforts at 3 different places to get a place in Lille as I was saying we were over for the soccer but got Bordeaux first time round. Should be no problems if there are plenty good reviews. |
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gspain
Ray Houghton Joined: 21 Apr 2010 Status: Offline Points: 4679 |
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Your money is safe with airbnb. However they fully facilitate the owner cancelling and re-selling at a higher price. I was caught this way last year. You get a refund and cannot leave feedback. So Jeannie could be advertising her place again for those 2 nights for 500 euro and then if she gets it she can tell airbnb to refund you. Normally this won't happen but with something like the Euros it can. I was caught in Brazil for the World Cup. Now you can't cancel without losing your money. Hence Jeannie holds all the cards. Your money is safe but your apartment is not. She can cancel the day before and just refund you. |
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Online Points: 39759 |
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Jaysus that's not a great system is it! I hope Jeannie isn't a cute hoor. Could be left stranded with nowhere to stay if they pull a trick like that.
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Hickster74
Davey Langan Joined: 20 Oct 2015 Location: Depends Status: Offline Points: 931 |
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Ask Airbnb in case its updated - they'll have to bring in a penalty for that or their business would be undermined. But for peace of mind, it might be an idea to book a place with free cancellation as insurance (a bit out of town probably all that's left with free cancellation at this stage but just as back up). Then get in touch with the Airbnb owner around Easter and again the week before the game to make sure the deal's still on and you can then cancel the out of town place.
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"Perhaps the reason that they did not consider the worst, was because discussion of such cases would have cast suspicion on the planner as being a "saboteur". Paranoia was rampant throughout."
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Online Points: 39759 |
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Probably a good idea alright |
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There is already a penalty in place, if they cancel 48 hours before hand on you i think it's 75 quid they owe you, and if less than 48 hours, it's 150 they owe you - there is also an automatic cancellation thing that goes up on the review, which would give he number of days before your arrival if jeannie cancelled.
i.e. : room cancelled 5 days before arrival etc. No air BnB owner would want this, for example if i saw this on a pad, i wouldn't book it. FWIW, i have 2 places booked, one in paris for 4 nights (340 total), beside rue oberkampf, and the second in bordeaux for 4 nights (505). I told the lady in Paris that i was going for the match and she said that's ok, just make sure there are no more than 4 of us in the place. If you cancel now - it depends on the cancellation policy - if flexible you have up to 24 hour before hand to cancel (i think), and you just lose the service fee to Air bob, if moderate you have up to 5 days before hand with same as above, but i think with strict, you will lose 50% of your booking amount.
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BigStrongMan
Robbie Keane Just Modding Like Joined: 22 May 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 107624 |
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I've just contacted Janinne and offered her 600e for 3 nights. Expect an email Lord Trap
Fine place btw,thanks for doing the spade work 👍 |
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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Actually airbnb policies stop people cancelling like that and re-letting. It's easily enough got around if you advertise the same place on a different account, admittedly, although that takes a crafty owner, and also one who doesn't mind having half the number of reviews they should have. Plus, if the owner cancels, a note appears on their account advising people of the same.
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xRedmanLFCx
Davey Langan Joined: 10 Jul 2015 Status: Offline Points: 994 |
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Great, we should be ok so, especially booking places that have 40+ reviews with no automated cancellation messages as part of them. |
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Liam Brady Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Location: Drogheda Status: Offline Points: 1172 |
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I've aready had the guy on looking for more money as he said for the football it was more expensive I bargained with him as it was still good value hopefully that be the end of it, it was done through messaging and when agreed airbnb sent a message to say it was being amended and I had to accept or decline . |
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