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Points: 3836 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote planning Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2014 at 2:32am
Originally posted by sham157 sham157 wrote:

That's the spirit, if a worker has a grievance and has been pushed to the extreme of striking, sack them, then replace them with worse off people wo will accept less and less conditions. 


If workers walk out on the job, measures must be put in place to deter them doing so in the future. They shouldnt be allowed to hold the country to ransom whenever they feel like it. The world goes on.

At all times, you have supported those who refuse to do the job they're paid for. You don't seem to either see the damage it does to their company or consider the customers who keep them in a job and pay their wages. It's them I feel sorry for, not employees who refuse to comply with the demands of a change of work roster.
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So strikers shouldn't be able to hold the public to ransom, but bosses can hold employees to ransom? I think I understand
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Originally posted by Clonbhoy Clonbhoy wrote:

So strikers shouldn't be able to hold the public to ransom, but bosses can hold employees to ransom? I think I understand
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If it weren't for striking working conditions would be alot worse! Through strike action over the decades is a reason i have the right/correct PPE at hand and better working conditions and fair pay.
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Originally posted by JohnnyD87 JohnnyD87 wrote:

If it weren't for striking working conditions would be alot worse! Through strike action over the decades is a reason i have the right/correct PPE at hand and better working conditions and fair pay.

Categorically wrong and you're talking through your arse.*

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Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Originally posted by JohnnyD87 JohnnyD87 wrote:

If it weren't for striking working conditions would be alot worse! Through strike action over the decades is a reason i have the right/correct PPE at hand and better working conditions and fair pay.


Categorically wrong and you're talking through your arse.*

*According to planning.


He's welcome to express his/your view on that. Ballots are done and a working party is in place before strike action is taken, if bosses refuse to agree to "sit round" a table and discuss issues/concerns then the employees cant be to blame for resortin to strike action!
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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by sham157 sham157 wrote:

That's the spirit, if a worker has a grievance and has been pushed to the extreme of striking, sack them, then replace them with worse off people wo will accept less and less conditions. 


If workers walk out on the job, measures must be put in place to deter them doing so in the future. They shouldnt be allowed to hold the country to ransom whenever they feel like it. The world goes on.

At all times, you have supported those who refuse to do the job they're paid for. You don't seem to either see the damage it does to their company or consider the customers who keep them in a job and pay their wages. It's them I feel sorry for, not employees who refuse to comply with the demands of a change of work roster.
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"Refuse to do the job they're paid for"
If a company is changing working rosters that isn't what the employee signed up for
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Originally posted by JohnnyD87 JohnnyD87 wrote:

Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Originally posted by JohnnyD87 JohnnyD87 wrote:

If it weren't for striking working conditions would be alot worse! Through strike action over the decades is a reason i have the right/correct PPE at hand and better working conditions and fair pay.


Categorically wrong and you're talking through your arse.*

*According to planning.


He's welcome to express his/your view on that. Ballots are done and a working party is in place before strike action is taken, if bosses refuse to agree to "sit round" a table and discuss issues/concerns then the employees cant be to blame for resortin to strike action!

I'm all for their strike action. Read back through the thread and you'll see his opinions on it, make the most sense of it that you can.


Edited by The Huntacha - 18 Jun 2014 at 11:52am
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Striking is always and will always be the last resort. Anyone that thinks otherwise hasn't a breeze what they're on about.
In an ideal world there'd be no need for unions and and the LRC etc but sadly it's companies abuse of position and staff which is what have us in these circumstances today. Profit should not the be all and end all
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The IBOA and a strike by another union got me on to a defined benefit pension nearly 8 years ago Clap.
 
 
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