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I think this makes for good viewing. Every touch from Idah against Everton. Some heavy touches at the beginning but there are some nice turns, dribbles, passes and runs in there. Some instances of him winning throws and corners which gain territory for Norwich. It does seem as though Smith has found a role which gets the best out of Adam in that he's nominally playing striker as part of a front two but he's allowed to get very wide and even get a little deeper to find pockets of space to win ball and get Norwich up the pitch. 

Now and again, he puts in a performance or does a few things in a game which make me very optimistic about his ceiling. This Everton game and the Portugal game are the two examples which come to mind. I don't know how far he will get in the game and the two examples come months and months apart which implies there are significant troughs and infrequent peaks in his performances. But he was good against West Ham too so hopefully he can build on this momentum. Watford on Friday night is a good opportunity for him. They have a big lad, Samir, that they have just signed playing centre half so let's see how he fares against him.
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yes the challenge with Idah will be to keep putting good performances back to back. That's not going to be too easy. He has the benefit at the moment of Premiership defenders not knowing much about him but that will change soon enough and he'll have to deal with defenders who have a plan on how to cope with him, and stop him playing.
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Apologies for posting a Sun link, but there's an interesting article from Neil O'Riordan about the mispronunciations of Irish, and now African, surnames, spinning off from Lineker's joke on MOTD.

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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Apologies for posting a Sun link, but there's an interesting article from Neil O'Riordan about the mispronunciations of Irish, and now African, surnames, spinning off from Lineker's joke on MOTD.


Not sure why the mispronunciation of a name is supposed to be seen as some affront to someone's civil liberties or racist or disrespect and it seems that people are told they should try harder to learn...

There are some names that are difficult to pronounce. Living in England people will look at the name Caoimhin and not know where to start.

A lot of Polish, Chinese, indian or Turkish names are difficult to pronounce and everyone will struggle outside of those nations... its perfectly normal to not pronounce some names correctly. 
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Originally posted by Eoink21 Eoink21 wrote:

https://twitter.com/KennysKids/status/1483410851197603841?s=20

I think this makes for good viewing. Every touch from Idah against Everton. Some heavy touches at the beginning but there are some nice turns, dribbles, passes and runs in there. Some instances of him winning throws and corners which gain territory for Norwich. It does seem as though Smith has found a role which gets the best out of Adam in that he's nominally playing striker as part of a front two but he's allowed to get very wide and even get a little deeper to find pockets of space to win ball and get Norwich up the pitch. 

Now and again, he puts in a performance or does a few things in a game which make me very optimistic about his ceiling. This Everton game and the Portugal game are the two examples which come to mind. I don't know how far he will get in the game and the two examples come months and months apart which implies there are significant troughs and infrequent peaks in his performances. But he was good against West Ham too so hopefully he can build on this momentum. Watford on Friday night is a good opportunity for him. They have a big lad, Samir, that they have just signed playing centre half so let's see how he fares against him.
 

Il slightly defend the lad and say he's had very very few starts between the Portugal game and the West Ham/Everton games which he played well in. 
Hopefully Smith gives him a proper run now at least the next 4/5 games.a Long odds on they go down which will suit our two boys. Norwich will likely go back up again with the  firepower they have up top for Championship level (Pukki Sargent Rashica Sargeant Tzolis)and Idah will hopefully start at least 30 matches for them next year. 

He's a fair amount of potential and generally target men like Idah tend to be slow burners that get better with age/experience.
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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by Eoink21 Eoink21 wrote:

https://twitter.com/KennysKids/status/1483410851197603841?s=20

I think this makes for good viewing. Every touch from Idah against Everton. Some heavy touches at the beginning but there are some nice turns, dribbles, passes and runs in there. Some instances of him winning throws and corners which gain territory for Norwich. It does seem as though Smith has found a role which gets the best out of Adam in that he's nominally playing striker as part of a front two but he's allowed to get very wide and even get a little deeper to find pockets of space to win ball and get Norwich up the pitch. 

Now and again, he puts in a performance or does a few things in a game which make me very optimistic about his ceiling. This Everton game and the Portugal game are the two examples which come to mind. I don't know how far he will get in the game and the two examples come months and months apart which implies there are significant troughs and infrequent peaks in his performances. But he was good against West Ham too so hopefully he can build on this momentum. Watford on Friday night is a good opportunity for him. They have a big lad, Samir, that they have just signed playing centre half so let's see how he fares against him.
 

Il slightly defend the lad and say he's had very very few starts between the Portugal game and the West Ham/Everton games which he played well in. 
Hopefully Smith gives him a proper run now at least the next 4/5 games.a Long odds on they go down which will suit our two boys. Norwich will likely go back up again with the  firepower they have up top for Championship level (Pukki Sargent Rashica Sargeant Tzolis)and Idah will hopefully start at least 30 matches for them next year. 

He's a fair amount of potential and generally target men like Idah tend to be slow burners that get better with age/experience.

Agreed, he's only getting a run of starts now for the 1st time in his career. Really hope Saturday was the turning point for Idah, he was everywhere. It would be great to see him notch another 3 or 4 goals before the end of the season, a big ask but would be huge for his confidence.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Apologies for posting a Sun link, but there's an interesting article from Neil O'Riordan about the mispronunciations of Irish, and now African, surnames, spinning off from Lineker's joke on MOTD.


Not sure why the mispronunciation of a name is supposed to be seen as some affront to someone's civil liberties or racist or disrespect and it seems that people are told they should try harder to learn...

There are some names that are difficult to pronounce. Living in England people will look at the name Caoimhin and not know where to start.

A lot of Polish, Chinese, indian or Turkish names are difficult to pronounce and everyone will struggle outside of those nations... its perfectly normal to not pronounce some names correctly. 

They'll learn from hearing it repeatedly on the telly - when your job as a commentator consists of 'describe what's happening on the pitch and get the players' names right' it's not too terribly much to ask to be fair.
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Originally posted by OnTheOneRoad OnTheOneRoad wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Apologies for posting a Sun link, but there's an interesting article from Neil O'Riordan about the mispronunciations of Irish, and now African, surnames, spinning off from Lineker's joke on MOTD.


Not sure why the mispronunciation of a name is supposed to be seen as some affront to someone's civil liberties or racist or disrespect and it seems that people are told they should try harder to learn...

There are some names that are difficult to pronounce. Living in England people will look at the name Caoimhin and not know where to start.

A lot of Polish, Chinese, indian or Turkish names are difficult to pronounce and everyone will struggle outside of those nations... its perfectly normal to not pronounce some names correctly. 

They'll learn from hearing it repeatedly on the telly - when your job as a commentator consists of 'describe what's happening on the pitch and get the players' names right' it's not too terribly much to ask to be fair.

Couldn't agree more with that. I would add that we learn through habit to pronounce the names of our increasingly diverse work colleagues too. 

But we shouldn't draw conclusions of disrespect or racism from mispronunciations. 

After spending a lot of time in Japan, all Japanese struggle to pronounce my name. Its not a big deal, we probably don't need articles in the sun about it.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by OnTheOneRoad OnTheOneRoad wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Apologies for posting a Sun link, but there's an interesting article from Neil O'Riordan about the mispronunciations of Irish, and now African, surnames, spinning off from Lineker's joke on MOTD.


Not sure why the mispronunciation of a name is supposed to be seen as some affront to someone's civil liberties or racist or disrespect and it seems that people are told they should try harder to learn...

There are some names that are difficult to pronounce. Living in England people will look at the name Caoimhin and not know where to start.

A lot of Polish, Chinese, indian or Turkish names are difficult to pronounce and everyone will struggle outside of those nations... its perfectly normal to not pronounce some names correctly. 

They'll learn from hearing it repeatedly on the telly - when your job as a commentator consists of 'describe what's happening on the pitch and get the players' names right' it's not too terribly much to ask to be fair.

Couldn't agree more with that. I would add that we learn through habit to pronounce the names of our increasingly diverse work colleagues too. 

But we shouldn't draw conclusions of disrespect or racism from mispronunciations. 

After spending a lot of time in Japan, all Japanese struggle to pronounce my name. Its not a big deal, we probably don't need articles in the sun about it.

You shouldn't have to explain to a grown adult how to pronounce something more than once. 

I was watching football with my girlfriend's friend's boyfriend who was Albanian. I kept pronouncing Lorik Cana's surname with a hard k like "coke" and he told me it's pronounced like "Sana". That was years ago and I retained that relatively trivial tidbit of information.

If I'm working with someone, whether they're Irish, Japanese or Nigerian, I'm going to make the effort to pronounce their name correctly, lest I give the impression that I don't care enough to.

I don't give a flying fig what anyone says. Omobamidele is simple to say once you hear it one time.

For that matter, there's something profoundly ignorant about the mass hysteria over in the UK that makes people pronounce Doherty like Dough-erty or Dock-erty. 

Getting a (relatively simple) name pronounced correctly should surely be one of the fundamentals of commentary work. 
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