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Originally posted by wexfordman1 wexfordman1 wrote:

24 days till Serbia game here's my team in a 4-3-3

Kelleher/Randolph
Coleman
O'Shea
Clark
Stevens

Cullen
Hendrick
Hourihane

Robinson
Connolly/Long
McGeady

That is utterly depressing. If we come second in this group Kenny should be given the keys to the city
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I like the idea of playing Coleman or Doherty as one of the three up front. I think if both are fit you have to try and accommodate them both on the right. It could be a weapon for them to alternate. 
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Id rather Doherty up there to be honest Coleman does bring more defensive stability 
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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

For anyone who finds themselves falling into the usual wishful thinking in the lead up to Ireland games....here we go....

Since the last set of international games played in November, here's where things are at club level. All these players have received a call up in the last 12 months:

Randolph: Started 3 -- Currently Fit
Travers: Started 8 (on loan). Hasn't played in last 5 games -- Currently Fit
Kelleher: Started 5. Hasn't played in last 5 games -- Currently Injured
O'Hara: Started 9. Hasn't played in last 7 games -- Currently Fit

Duffy: Started 8 -- 4 Sub App. Hasn't played in last 3 games -- 1 GOAL --- Currently Fit
Clark: Started 16 -- 1 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
Christie: Started 22. Currently Fit
Long: Started 3 -- 1 Sub App. 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
O'Shea: Started 12 -- 3 Sub App. -- Currently Fit
Lenihan: Started 19 -- Currently Fit
Manning: Started 5 -- 4 Sub App. Hasn't played in last 2 games -- Currently Fit
Doherty: Started 11 -- 3 Sub Appearances -- Currently Fit
Egan: Started 18 -- Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
Coleman: Started 9 -- 4 Sub App. Currently Fit
Stevens: Started 11 -- Currently Fit
Williams: Started 2 -- Hasn't played in last 15 games. Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES

Brady: Started 11 -- 3 Sub App. Hasn't played in last 2 games. 1 GOAL -- Currently Injured.
Hourihane: Started 10 (including loan spell) -- 1 Sub -- 4 GOALS -- Currently Fit
Horgan: Started 15 -- 4 Sub App. Currently Fit
Byrne: Started 5 (Rovers/Apoel) -- 3 Sub App. -- Hasn't played last 5 games -- Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
Cullen: Started 14 - Currently Fit
Knight: Started 20 -- 1 Sub App. -- 2 GOALS -- Currently Fit
McEneff: Started 5 (Inc. Hearts) -- 2 Sub App -- 4 GOALS (Rovers) - Currently Fit
Taylor: Started 20 -- 3 GOALS -- Currently Fit
O'Dowda: Started 9 -- 1 Sub App. -- Hasn't played in last 15 games. Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
McClean -- Started 13 -- 5 Sub App. -- Hasn't played in last 2 games. Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
Hendrick -- Started 8 -- 1 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL -- Hasn't played in last 3 games. Currently Fit.
Molumby -- Started 7 (on loan) -- 4 Sub App. (Brighton/Preston) -- Currently Fit
Browne -- Started 18 -- 1 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
McCarthy -- Started 3 -- 3 Sub App. Currently Fit
Arter -- Started 7 -- 1 Sub App. -- Currently Injured

Maguire -- Started 9 -- 6 Sub App. -- 2 GOALS -- Hasn't played in last 5 games. Currently Injured.
Collins -- Started 19 -- 3 Sub App. -- 5 GOALS -- Currently Fit
Burke -- Started 3 (season finished) -- 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
Parrott -- Started 15 (loan spells) -- 3 Sub App. -- 0 GOALS -- Currently Fit
Idah -- Started 0 -- 8 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL - Currently Fit
Robinson -- Started 9 -- 3 Sub App. -- 0 GOALS - Hasn't played in last 4 games. Currently Fit
Connolly -- Started 6 -- 3 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL - Currently Fit
Long -- Started 5 (inc. Loan spell) --  7 Sub App. (inc. loan spell) - 2 GOALS - Currently Fit
Curtis -- Started 14 -- 2 Sub App. -- 4 GOALS - Currently Fit

The above are just black and white stats that don't factor in the poor form that most of players are currently in. Also not factoring in the leagues players play in, etc. Fact is, the higher up the leagues you go, the worse the stats are.

Anyway some more stats to dip you further into a depression...

Total Club Goals scored since last International break in November:

Defenders: 3 GOALS
Midfielders: 16 GOALS 
Attackers: 16 GOALS

-- Excluding, Shane Long, the last 8 forwards called up have a combination of 4 international goals between them. 

-- Shane Long hasn't scored an international goal since 2016.

Of those 9 forwards, Shane Long is the only one who scored in a competitive international, back in 2016...his last international goal.

Not that it needs to be written down, but when you do, the depth of how bad things are, and the job that Kenny has on his hands, is unreal.

Good info. And it's exactly why Kenny will need a long time to sort his team out. It's the worst squad I can ever remember for a WC 
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

For anyone who finds themselves falling into the usual wishful thinking in the lead up to Ireland games....here we go....

Since the last set of international games played in November, here's where things are at club level. All these players have received a call up in the last 12 months:

Randolph: Started 3 -- Currently Fit
Travers: Started 8 (on loan). Hasn't played in last 5 games -- Currently Fit
Kelleher: Started 5. Hasn't played in last 5 games -- Currently Injured
O'Hara: Started 9. Hasn't played in last 7 games -- Currently Fit

Duffy: Started 8 -- 4 Sub App. Hasn't played in last 3 games -- 1 GOAL --- Currently Fit
Clark: Started 16 -- 1 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
Christie: Started 22. Currently Fit
Long: Started 3 -- 1 Sub App. 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
O'Shea: Started 12 -- 3 Sub App. -- Currently Fit
Lenihan: Started 19 -- Currently Fit
Manning: Started 5 -- 4 Sub App. Hasn't played in last 2 games -- Currently Fit
Doherty: Started 11 -- 3 Sub Appearances -- Currently Fit
Egan: Started 18 -- Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
Coleman: Started 9 -- 4 Sub App. Currently Fit
Stevens: Started 11 -- Currently Fit
Williams: Started 2 -- Hasn't played in last 15 games. Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES

Brady: Started 11 -- 3 Sub App. Hasn't played in last 2 games. 1 GOAL -- Currently Injured.
Hourihane: Started 10 (including loan spell) -- 1 Sub -- 4 GOALS -- Currently Fit
Horgan: Started 15 -- 4 Sub App. Currently Fit
Byrne: Started 5 (Rovers/Apoel) -- 3 Sub App. -- Hasn't played last 5 games -- Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
Cullen: Started 14 - Currently Fit
Knight: Started 20 -- 1 Sub App. -- 2 GOALS -- Currently Fit
McEneff: Started 5 (Inc. Hearts) -- 2 Sub App -- 4 GOALS (Rovers) - Currently Fit
Taylor: Started 20 -- 3 GOALS -- Currently Fit
O'Dowda: Started 9 -- 1 Sub App. -- Hasn't played in last 15 games. Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
McClean -- Started 13 -- 5 Sub App. -- Hasn't played in last 2 games. Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
Hendrick -- Started 8 -- 1 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL -- Hasn't played in last 3 games. Currently Fit.
Molumby -- Started 7 (on loan) -- 4 Sub App. (Brighton/Preston) -- Currently Fit
Browne -- Started 18 -- 1 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
McCarthy -- Started 3 -- 3 Sub App. Currently Fit
Arter -- Started 7 -- 1 Sub App. -- Currently Injured

Maguire -- Started 9 -- 6 Sub App. -- 2 GOALS -- Hasn't played in last 5 games. Currently Injured.
Collins -- Started 19 -- 3 Sub App. -- 5 GOALS -- Currently Fit
Burke -- Started 3 (season finished) -- 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
Parrott -- Started 15 (loan spells) -- 3 Sub App. -- 0 GOALS -- Currently Fit
Idah -- Started 0 -- 8 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL - Currently Fit
Robinson -- Started 9 -- 3 Sub App. -- 0 GOALS - Hasn't played in last 4 games. Currently Fit
Connolly -- Started 6 -- 3 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL - Currently Fit
Long -- Started 5 (inc. Loan spell) --  7 Sub App. (inc. loan spell) - 2 GOALS - Currently Fit
Curtis -- Started 14 -- 2 Sub App. -- 4 GOALS - Currently Fit

The above are just black and white stats that don't factor in the poor form that most of players are currently in. Also not factoring in the leagues players play in, etc. Fact is, the higher up the leagues you go, the worse the stats are.

Anyway some more stats to dip you further into a depression...

Total Club Goals scored since last International break in November:

Defenders: 3 GOALS
Midfielders: 16 GOALS 
Attackers: 16 GOALS

-- Excluding, Shane Long, the last 8 forwards called up have a combination of 4 international goals between them. 

-- Shane Long hasn't scored an international goal since 2016.

Of those 9 forwards, Shane Long is the only one who scored in a competitive international, back in 2016...his last international goal.

Not that it needs to be written down, but when you do, the depth of how bad things are, and the job that Kenny has on his hands, is unreal.

Good info. And it's exactly why Kenny will need a long time to sort his team out. It's the worst squad I can ever remember for a WC 

There is defiantly a debate is this the worst Irish Association football team of all time
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Originally posted by wexfordman1 wexfordman1 wrote:


There is defiantly a debate is this the worst Irish Association football team of all time

I often think we were very quick to use the "sum total is better than the individual parts mantra" to describe the Irish team, but here, on paper, I think that would be a debatable suggestion. In several positions we have no obvious candidate due to the lack of playing time, we have no outstanding player, we have one player with obvious leadership qualities, four of our PL players are playing in two of the poorest sides ever to play in the PL, nobody playing in the current Top 4, and one player currently playing in European Club football. Combine that with the age of some players, the lack of form, and the injuries, and there is genuine concern that it will effectively bounce management into picking a side the side that will represent a massive regression, or else a side that that just doesn't have the abilities to compete.
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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

If anyone saw Brady's last appeance for Burnley you wouldn't leave him near a football pitch, however if and a big if at that in my opinion he would only see game time v Qatar. Also going through this thread you'd hardly think Alan Browne was a current Republic of Ireland international while I don't think he's the answer to all our problems he's definitely ahead of Molumby in the current order. The Qatar game is actually a good game for us to have in regards giving an opportunity to our second choice goalkeeper etc..
Browne has had terrible luck with injures in international windows. Being played out of position most weeks too for Preston doesn’t help his cause. He was good against Slovakia so could well feature in Serbia.
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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

For anyone who finds themselves falling into the usual wishful thinking in the lead up to Ireland games....here we go....

Since the last set of international games played in November, here's where things are at club level. All these players have received a call up in the last 12 months:

Randolph: Started 3 -- Currently Fit
Travers: Started 8 (on loan). Hasn't played in last 5 games -- Currently Fit
Kelleher: Started 5. Hasn't played in last 5 games -- Currently Injured
O'Hara: Started 9. Hasn't played in last 7 games -- Currently Fit

Duffy: Started 8 -- 4 Sub App. Hasn't played in last 3 games -- 1 GOAL --- Currently Fit
Clark: Started 16 -- 1 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
Christie: Started 22. Currently Fit
Long: Started 3 -- 1 Sub App. 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
O'Shea: Started 12 -- 3 Sub App. -- Currently Fit
Lenihan: Started 19 -- Currently Fit
Manning: Started 5 -- 4 Sub App. Hasn't played in last 2 games -- Currently Fit
Doherty: Started 11 -- 3 Sub Appearances -- Currently Fit
Egan: Started 18 -- Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
Coleman: Started 9 -- 4 Sub App. Currently Fit
Stevens: Started 11 -- Currently Fit
Williams: Started 2 -- Hasn't played in last 15 games. Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES

Brady: Started 11 -- 3 Sub App. Hasn't played in last 2 games. 1 GOAL -- Currently Injured.
Hourihane: Started 10 (including loan spell) -- 1 Sub -- 4 GOALS -- Currently Fit
Horgan: Started 15 -- 4 Sub App. Currently Fit
Byrne: Started 5 (Rovers/Apoel) -- 3 Sub App. -- Hasn't played last 5 games -- Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
Cullen: Started 14 - Currently Fit
Knight: Started 20 -- 1 Sub App. -- 2 GOALS -- Currently Fit
McEneff: Started 5 (Inc. Hearts) -- 2 Sub App -- 4 GOALS (Rovers) - Currently Fit
Taylor: Started 20 -- 3 GOALS -- Currently Fit
O'Dowda: Started 9 -- 1 Sub App. -- Hasn't played in last 15 games. Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
McClean -- Started 13 -- 5 Sub App. -- Hasn't played in last 2 games. Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
Hendrick -- Started 8 -- 1 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL -- Hasn't played in last 3 games. Currently Fit.
Molumby -- Started 7 (on loan) -- 4 Sub App. (Brighton/Preston) -- Currently Fit
Browne -- Started 18 -- 1 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
McCarthy -- Started 3 -- 3 Sub App. Currently Fit
Arter -- Started 7 -- 1 Sub App. -- Currently Injured

Maguire -- Started 9 -- 6 Sub App. -- 2 GOALS -- Hasn't played in last 5 games. Currently Injured.
Collins -- Started 19 -- 3 Sub App. -- 5 GOALS -- Currently Fit
Burke -- Started 3 (season finished) -- 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
Parrott -- Started 15 (loan spells) -- 3 Sub App. -- 0 GOALS -- Currently Fit
Idah -- Started 0 -- 8 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL - Currently Fit
Robinson -- Started 9 -- 3 Sub App. -- 0 GOALS - Hasn't played in last 4 games. Currently Fit
Connolly -- Started 6 -- 3 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL - Currently Fit
Long -- Started 5 (inc. Loan spell) --  7 Sub App. (inc. loan spell) - 2 GOALS - Currently Fit
Curtis -- Started 14 -- 2 Sub App. -- 4 GOALS - Currently Fit

The above are just black and white stats that don't factor in the poor form that most of players are currently in. Also not factoring in the leagues players play in, etc. Fact is, the higher up the leagues you go, the worse the stats are.

Anyway some more stats to dip you further into a depression...

Total Club Goals scored since last International break in November:

Defenders: 3 GOALS
Midfielders: 16 GOALS 
Attackers: 16 GOALS

-- Excluding, Shane Long, the last 8 forwards called up have a combination of 4 international goals between them. 

-- Shane Long hasn't scored an international goal since 2016.

Of those 9 forwards, Shane Long is the only one who scored in a competitive international, back in 2016...his last international goal.

Not that it needs to be written down, but when you do, the depth of how bad things are, and the job that Kenny has on his hands, is unreal.


Fantastic info - thanks for pulling together. Utterly depressing reading all the same LOL
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Darren Randolph has probably been our best player in the last 2 yrs and I’d have him as my number 1 . Kelleher’s time will come but it’s not now.
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Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

Darren Randolph has probably been our best player in the last 2 yrs and I’d have him as my number 1 . Kelleher’s time will come but it’s not now.

I'd agree randolph has been our best player, not because he's made some world class saves or anything, just because... who else can you give it to.

I'd go for the below but I can't image any team we put out would stike fear 

                 Randolph 
   
  Coleman Clark oshea Stevens

     Mccarthy Cullen Hendrick 

      Doherty Connolly knight 
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O Dowda back training with Bristol so he could end up being fit for the games yet according to RTÉ reports.
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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

For anyone who finds themselves falling into the usual wishful thinking in the lead up to Ireland games....here we go....

Since the last set of international games played in November, here's where things are at club level. All these players have received a call up in the last 12 months:

Randolph: Started 3 -- Currently Fit
Travers: Started 8 (on loan). Hasn't played in last 5 games -- Currently Fit
Kelleher: Started 5. Hasn't played in last 5 games -- Currently Injured
O'Hara: Started 9. Hasn't played in last 7 games -- Currently Fit

Duffy: Started 8 -- 4 Sub App. Hasn't played in last 3 games -- 1 GOAL --- Currently Fit
Clark: Started 16 -- 1 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
Christie: Started 22. Currently Fit
Long: Started 3 -- 1 Sub App. 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
O'Shea: Started 12 -- 3 Sub App. -- Currently Fit
Lenihan: Started 19 -- Currently Fit
Manning: Started 5 -- 4 Sub App. Hasn't played in last 2 games -- Currently Fit
Doherty: Started 11 -- 3 Sub Appearances -- Currently Fit
Egan: Started 18 -- Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
Coleman: Started 9 -- 4 Sub App. Currently Fit
Stevens: Started 11 -- Currently Fit
Williams: Started 2 -- Hasn't played in last 15 games. Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES

Brady: Started 11 -- 3 Sub App. Hasn't played in last 2 games. 1 GOAL -- Currently Injured.
Hourihane: Started 10 (including loan spell) -- 1 Sub -- 4 GOALS -- Currently Fit
Horgan: Started 15 -- 4 Sub App. Currently Fit
Byrne: Started 5 (Rovers/Apoel) -- 3 Sub App. -- Hasn't played last 5 games -- Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
Cullen: Started 14 - Currently Fit
Knight: Started 20 -- 1 Sub App. -- 2 GOALS -- Currently Fit
McEneff: Started 5 (Inc. Hearts) -- 2 Sub App -- 4 GOALS (Rovers) - Currently Fit
Taylor: Started 20 -- 3 GOALS -- Currently Fit
O'Dowda: Started 9 -- 1 Sub App. -- Hasn't played in last 15 games. Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
McClean -- Started 13 -- 5 Sub App. -- Hasn't played in last 2 games. Currently Injured. MISSES IRELAND GAMES
Hendrick -- Started 8 -- 1 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL -- Hasn't played in last 3 games. Currently Fit.
Molumby -- Started 7 (on loan) -- 4 Sub App. (Brighton/Preston) -- Currently Fit
Browne -- Started 18 -- 1 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
McCarthy -- Started 3 -- 3 Sub App. Currently Fit
Arter -- Started 7 -- 1 Sub App. -- Currently Injured

Maguire -- Started 9 -- 6 Sub App. -- 2 GOALS -- Hasn't played in last 5 games. Currently Injured.
Collins -- Started 19 -- 3 Sub App. -- 5 GOALS -- Currently Fit
Burke -- Started 3 (season finished) -- 1 GOAL -- Currently Fit
Parrott -- Started 15 (loan spells) -- 3 Sub App. -- 0 GOALS -- Currently Fit
Idah -- Started 0 -- 8 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL - Currently Fit
Robinson -- Started 9 -- 3 Sub App. -- 0 GOALS - Hasn't played in last 4 games. Currently Fit
Connolly -- Started 6 -- 3 Sub App. -- 1 GOAL - Currently Fit
Long -- Started 5 (inc. Loan spell) --  7 Sub App. (inc. loan spell) - 2 GOALS - Currently Fit
Curtis -- Started 14 -- 2 Sub App. -- 4 GOALS - Currently Fit

The above are just black and white stats that don't factor in the poor form that most of players are currently in. Also not factoring in the leagues players play in, etc. Fact is, the higher up the leagues you go, the worse the stats are.

Anyway some more stats to dip you further into a depression...

Total Club Goals scored since last International break in November:

Defenders: 3 GOALS
Midfielders: 16 GOALS 
Attackers: 16 GOALS

-- Excluding, Shane Long, the last 8 forwards called up have a combination of 4 international goals between them. 

-- Shane Long hasn't scored an international goal since 2016.

Of those 9 forwards, Shane Long is the only one who scored in a competitive international, back in 2016...his last international goal.

Not that it needs to be written down, but when you do, the depth of how bad things are, and the job that Kenny has on his hands, is unreal.
You would have FYP’S that makes more pleasant reading that that.
But fair play to you some work went into it.

The content  is sobering the only positive thing is this World Cup is Qatar can’t imagine it would be much craic 
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