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Looking at the group now we really can't afford Luxembourg beating Azerbaijan away which'd bring them onto 9 points assuming they get beaten in all their games with Serbia and Portugal. 

If we managed to take the maximum 6 points of Azerbaijan, beat Serbia at home it would be huge and almost guarantee us third spot and we may not even have to beat Luxembourg away in the last match. 

Probably a much better chance of on away win in Luxembourg than a home win against the Serbs tbh. 
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Looking at the group now we really can't afford Luxembourg beating Azerbaijan away which'd bring them onto 9 points assuming they get beaten in all their games with Serbia and Portugal. 

If we managed to take the maximum 6 points of Azerbaijan, beat Serbia at home it would be huge and almost guarantee us third spot and we may not even have to beat Luxembourg away in the last match. 

Probably a much better chance of on away win in Luxembourg than a home win against the Serbs tbh. 
Looking beyond the world cup, I'm not sure there is much difference in finishing 3rd or 4th in the group - the remaining games are about building from Wednesday's game and a good winning performance on Saturday will be the next step - even if its by 1 goal.

If you take position we can still finish 2nd (say 95% unlikely) then win in both is a must.

I'd be happy with a win on Saturday and then be competitive against Serbia. If Serbia beat Lux on Saturday they may be happy wth a point against us - 4 points would be good return from the 3 games. 6 would make the 95% unlikely 90%.
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to finish 2nd, we need the following to happen:
We win all 5 remaining matches (a big ask - Serbia at home isnt easy, and not many will fancy us to beat Portugal. And we are assmuing we beat Luxembourg away)
And we need Serbia to drop points somewhere, possibly away to Luxembourg as you'd assume they will beat Azerbijan.

The above scenario is beyond us I think.
Time to move on from this campaign. Get as many points as we can but for all dreamers like myself, the World Cup one is gone for another 4 years.
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I wouldn't even entertain any talk on second spot. It was completely over after the Luxembourg loss. 

Finishing 3rd over 4th is vital in terms of of keeping the players firmly behind the manager. It may not make much difference regarding seedings but I wouldn't underestimate the brutal optics of us potentially finishing behind Luxembourg and second last in a 5 team group. 


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we win and Luxembourg nick a point on Saturday and then the permutations start.
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I never get that its over until its mathematically over tbh so wouldnt count the chickens yet

Beat Azer on sat should be bread and butter, If we cant We dont deserve to be goinf anywhere
Beat serbia on tuesday, then its almost game back on. If We cant beat them its game over.


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Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

we win and Luxembourg nick a point on Saturday and then the permutations start.

We win our last 5 games and that should be good enough as I would say Serbia would drop more points


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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

we win and Luxembourg nick a point on Saturday and then the permutations start.

We win our last 5 games and that should be good enough as I would say Serbia would drop more points

I dont think we've won 5 games in a row in our history...
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

we win and Luxembourg nick a point on Saturday and then the permutations start.

We win our last 5 games and that should be good enough as I would say Serbia would drop more points

I dont think we've won 5 games in a row in our history...

I know, it's not happening but just saying I dont think we will have to be worrying too much about other results if we win our last 5 and that's what we have to do if we are to have any hope
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We've been blessed over the years to always be in with a shout in the final game of the qualifying group to either qualify or make a play off - only recent exception would probably be the 08 Euros but we've been very consistent over the last 30 years in that regard.

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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

we win and Luxembourg nick a point on Saturday and then the permutations start.

We win our last 5 games and that should be good enough as I would say Serbia would drop more points

I dont think we've won 5 games in a row in our history...

I don't think you've had five correct posts in your history
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We COULD get 13 points from next 5 games

Unlikely but would that put us in the play off mix?

Luxembourg certainly are targeting 2nd now


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annoying that Serbia got a point against Portugal as I can't see them dropping anything against Lux or Azerbaijan
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Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

annoying that Serbia got a point against Portugal as I can't see them dropping anything against Lux or Azerbaijan

Serbia have gotten away with murder by not having VAR for their first two games. They genuinely could be on one point right now - a 2-2 vs us and a 3-2 loss vs Portugal.

Clear peno not given for us and Ronaldo scoring a goal that wasn't given. Wouldn't of been the added pressure for Ronaldo to beat his record vs us on Wednesday if that goal stood.
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Despite our fantastic result tonight we have been eliminated from World Cup Qualifying with three rounds of the group to go
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Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

Despite our fantastic result tonight we have been eliminated from World Cup Qualifying with three rounds of the group to go
  

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Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

Despite our fantastic result tonight we have been eliminated from World Cup Qualifying with three rounds of the group to go

Yeah unfortunately it was gone after the first two rounds to be honest. Tonight was just a mathematical formality with games running out. 
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I thought we were already eliminated. Serbia ahead of us on H2H. We could only match their points total.
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