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Decision tomorrow at 10.30am apparently
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Decision tomorrow at 10.30am apparently


Yes but the judge said it would be a "little ambitious" for the case to be settled by Friday.


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i believe the sale has just been given the green light what a massive day for a massive clubClap

 
 
I saw that. Can the yanks appeal and if they do will that push the club into admin?


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Originally posted by colemany2k colemany2k wrote:

Originally posted by Neil Armstrong Neil Armstrong wrote:

i believe the sale has just been given the green light what a massive day for a massive clubClap

 
 
I saw that. Can the yanks appeal and if they do will that push the club into admin?


They can appeal but its not worth their while. They wont win. Presume we can put this thread to bed and resurrect it in a year or 2 when there is no new stadium and the new owners have borrowed too much again?

A large section of the Liverpool supporters need to eat a massive piece of humble pie in relation to Broughton and a smaller piece in relation to Purslow. Broughton has done an excellent job in pushing through this sale and has handled himself perfectly from day 1. He took a cold hearted approach which didnt sit well with some fans but it was the right approach.

 


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Of course he took a cold hearted approach. His contract with RBS included a £500k bonus for selling Liverpool while he was at the helm. I would have sold it to Tom, Dick and Harry if I was offered that bonus  LOL
 
The yanks could appeal to ensure administration and to stick the knife into those involved with LFC (RBS, Fans etc) before leaving Shocked
 
 


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9080946.stm 
 
 
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No symapthy whatsoever. It happens to be Liverpool as it was Leeds but could just as easily be United.

If you own a company, you bring cash in off your customers, then you pay it out to your creditors for stock bought, that's business that's how it works, football clubs are no different nowadays to the local supermarket.

Liverpool like many sides over the years has borrowed heavily to live the dream. Clubs like Everton have watched as they have borrowed to buy Torres, Mascherona, Aqulina, and loads of others good, bad and mainly average players. They pay Gerrard £100k plus a week, Torres cannot be far off that, and the Yanks over the years gave the Fat Waiter over £230m to spend.

Through this spending they qualified year on year for the Champions League therefore guaranteeing themselves a guaranteed £30 - £40m extra revenue than the rest of us by the fact they qualified. Everton and alike have lived mainly within their means, much sometimes to our frustrations.

Since say 2000, the so called top four sides have amassed probably over £400m each more than other Premier League club. Through this they just got stronger and stronger being able to buy the so called best, while the others have found it an uphill struggle to keep close. So now Liverpool find themselves about to go into administration through their reckless borrowing and not being able to repay the banks, which ironically, in the case of RBS are owned by the taxpayer.

I hope come Friday, they find themselves broke, nine points worse off, as until one of the so called 'top four' end up like this football will never ever change.
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Originally posted by Justice No. 1 Justice No. 1 wrote:

No symapthy whatsoever. It happens to be Liverpool as it was Leeds but could just as easily be United.

<P itxtvisited="1">If you own a company, you bring cash in off your customers, then you pay it out to your creditors for stock bought, that's business that's how it works, football clubs are no different nowadays to the local supermarket.


<P itxtvisited="1">Liverpool like many sides over the years has borrowed heavily to live the dream. Clubs like Everton have watched as they have borrowed to buy Torres, Mascherona, Aqulina, and loads of others good, bad and mainly average players. They pay Gerrard £100k plus a week, Torres cannot be far off that, and the Yanks over the years gave the Fat Waiter over £230m to spend.


<P itxtvisited="1">Through this spending they qualified year on year for the Champions League therefore guaranteeing themselves a guaranteed £30 - £40m extra revenue than the rest of us by the fact they qualified. Everton and alike have lived mainly within their means, much sometimes to our frustrations.



<P itxtvisited="1">Since say 2000, the so called top four sides have amassed probably over £400m each more than other Premier League club. Through this they just got stronger and stronger being able to buy the so called best, while the others have found it an uphill struggle to keep close. So now Liverpool find themselves about to go into administration through their reckless borrowing and not being able to repay the banks, which ironically, in the case of RBS are owned by the taxpayer.



<P itxtvisited="1">I hope come Friday, they find themselves broke, nine points worse off, as until one of the so called 'top four' end up like this football will never ever change.





Thats complete and utter horse sh*t

Liverpool didnt borrow heavily to win 18 leagues and 5 european cups did they?

There were plenty of clubs around in the 70s and 80s paying higher wages and transfer fees than liverpool

Michael Laudrup said he had the chance to join liverpool or juventus when he left brondby but joined juve cause they offered much higher wages

This was true of many transfer deals involving liverpool- players joined them for trophies not the best wages

The huge profits united make through being a succesful global brand get sucked into a debt incurred from a hostile takeover from an american investor who has never been to old trafford- is that fair



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Originally posted by Vivakenbarlow Vivakenbarlow wrote:

Originally posted by Justice No. 1 Justice No. 1 wrote:

No symapthy whatsoever. It happens to be Liverpool as it was Leeds but could just as easily be United.

<P itxtvisited="1">If you own a company, you bring cash in off your customers, then you pay it out to your creditors for stock bought, that's business that's how it works, football clubs are no different nowadays to the local supermarket.


<P itxtvisited="1">Liverpool like many sides over the years has borrowed heavily to live the dream. Clubs like Everton have watched as they have borrowed to buy Torres, Mascherona, Aqulina, and loads of others good, bad and mainly average players. They pay Gerrard £100k plus a week, Torres cannot be far off that, and the Yanks over the years gave the Fat Waiter over £230m to spend.


<P itxtvisited="1">Through this spending they qualified year on year for the Champions League therefore guaranteeing themselves a guaranteed £30 - £40m extra revenue than the rest of us by the fact they qualified. Everton and alike have lived mainly within their means, much sometimes to our frustrations.



<P itxtvisited="1">Since say 2000, the so called top four sides have amassed probably over £400m each more than other Premier League club. Through this they just got stronger and stronger being able to buy the so called best, while the others have found it an uphill struggle to keep close. So now Liverpool find themselves about to go into administration through their reckless borrowing and not being able to repay the banks, which ironically, in the case of RBS are owned by the taxpayer.



<P itxtvisited="1">I hope come Friday, they find themselves broke, nine points worse off, as until one of the so called 'top four' end up like this football will never ever change.





Thats complete and utter horse sh*t

Liverpool didnt borrow heavily to win 18 leagues and 5 european cups did they? Football is completely different now

There were plenty of clubs around in the 70s and 80s paying higher wages and transfer fees than liverpool So what, See above

Michael Laudrup said he had the chance to join liverpool or juventus when he left brondby but joined juve cause they offered much higher wages
 Not entirely accurate.Van Bastan joined Milan instead of Everton in the 80's cause Liverpool fans got english clubs banned from Europe. Van Bastan wanted to play European Cup football. Laudrup went to Spain and Italy for similiar reasons. Granted clubs in Europe even in 80's could make more money in Europe.

This was true of many transfer deals involving liverpool- players joined them for trophies not the best wages Again so what completely different era and it's far from true these days

The huge profits united make through being a succesful global brand get sucked into a debt incurred from a hostile takeover from an american investor who has never been to old trafford- is that fair

Nothing hostile about yanks takeover of either Utd or Liverpool. There was a buyer and seller and a sale was agreed between them. Vast majority didn't complain at the time and no one asked how they were paying for it once the seller got paid and the buyer promised funds to invest.
 
 
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Originally posted by Justice No. 1 Justice No. 1 wrote:

Originally posted by Vivakenbarlow Vivakenbarlow wrote:

Originally posted by Justice No. 1 Justice No. 1 wrote:

No symapthy whatsoever. It happens to be Liverpool as it was Leeds but could just as easily be United.
<P itxtvisited="1">If you own a company, you bring cash in off your customers, then you pay it out to your creditors for stock bought, that's business that's how it works, football clubs are no different nowadays to the local supermarket.

<P itxtvisited="1">Liverpool like many sides over the years has borrowed heavily to live the dream. Clubs like Everton have watched as they have borrowed to buy Torres, Mascherona, Aqulina, and loads of others good, bad and mainly average players. They pay Gerrard £100k plus a week, Torres cannot be far off that, and the Yanks over the years gave the Fat Waiter over £230m to spend.

<P itxtvisited="1">Through this spending they qualified year on year for the Champions League therefore guaranteeing themselves a guaranteed £30 - £40m extra revenue than the rest of us by the fact they qualified. Everton and alike have lived mainly within their means, much sometimes to our frustrations.


<P itxtvisited="1">Since say 2000, the so called top four sides have amassed probably over £400m each more than other Premier League club. Through this they just got stronger and stronger being able to buy the so called best, while the others have found it an uphill struggle to keep close. So now Liverpool find themselves about to go into administration through their reckless borrowing and not being able to repay the banks, which ironically, in the case of RBS are owned by the taxpayer.


<P itxtvisited="1">I hope come Friday, they find themselves broke, nine points worse off, as until one of the so called 'top four' end up like this football will never ever change.

Thats complete and utter horse sh*t Liverpool didnt borrow heavily to win 18 leagues and 5 european cups did they? Football is completely different nowThere were plenty of clubs around in the 70s and 80s paying higher wages and transfer fees than liverpool So what, See aboveMichael Laudrup said he had the chance to join liverpool or juventus when he left brondby but joined juve cause they offered much higher wages
 Not entirely accurate.Van Bastan joined Milan instead of Everton in the 80's cause Liverpool fans got english clubs banned from Europe. Van Bastan wanted to play European Cup football. Laudrup went to Spain and Italy for similiar reasons. Granted clubs in Europe even in 80's could make more money in Europe.This was true of many transfer deals involving liverpool- players joined them for trophies not the best wages Again so what completely different era and it's far from true these daysThe huge profits united make through being a succesful global brand get sucked into a debt incurred from a hostile takeover from an american investor who has never been to old trafford- is that fair

Nothing hostile about yanks takeover of either Utd or Liverpool. There was a buyer and seller and a sale was agreed between them. Vast majority didn't complain at the time and no one asked how they were paying for it once the seller got paid and the buyer promised funds to invest.

 

 



No one complained at the time?

Are you for real

They burned effigys of glazers and staged several protests that almost resulted in full scale riots- the glazers had to have a police escort to get them out of old trafford

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Originally posted by Justice No. 1 Justice No. 1 wrote:

Michael Laudrup said he had the chance to join liverpool or juventus when he left brondby but joined juve cause they offered much higher wages
 Not entirely accurate.Van Bastan joined Milan instead of Everton in the 80's cause Liverpool fans got english clubs banned from Europe. Van Bastan wanted to play European Cup football. Laudrup went to Spain and Italy for similiar reasons. Granted clubs in Europe even in 80's could make more money in Europe.
 
 
Laudrup went to Juventus in '83, two years before the ban on English clubs in Europe. He went to Lazio on loan for two years cos of the 2 man foreigner limit in Serie A at the time so you're not fully correct there about his reasons.
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Originally posted by Justice No. 1 Justice No. 1 wrote:

Nothing hostile about yanks takeover of either Utd or Liverpool. There was a buyer and seller and a sale was agreed between them. Vast majority didn't complain at the time and no one asked how they were paying for it once the seller got paid and the buyer promised funds to invest.


Sections of United fans were up in arms at the time of their takeover over but  Liverpool fans loved G+H for the first few years. They received a heroes welcome in Athens from the regular fans. Things only turned sour when it became clear that the stadium was not going to be built and the sums of money being spent on new players became less and less.

Personally, I dont see much of a change with this new NESV crowd. Its obvious that they will have to borrow heavily to build a stadium and provide the sums of money the fans expect to be invested in the squad.

I think the principal shining light in this Liverpool saga has been Broughton. He has done a smashing job and LFC should do all that they possibly can to make his chairmanship permanent.
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Really not sure about this new group or the management at the top. It is crazy how the club could be sold from underneath them it seems
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Originally posted by seaniemac seaniemac wrote:

Originally posted by Justice No. 1 Justice No. 1 wrote:

Michael Laudrup said he had the chance to join liverpool or juventus when he left brondby but joined juve cause they offered much higher wages
 Not entirely accurate.Van Bastan joined Milan instead of Everton in the 80's cause Liverpool fans got english clubs banned from Europe. Van Bastan wanted to play European Cup football. Laudrup went to Spain and Italy for similiar reasons. Granted clubs in Europe even in 80's could make more money in Europe.
 
 
Laudrup went to Juventus in '83, two years before the ban on English clubs in Europe. He went to Lazio on loan for two years cos of the 2 man foreigner limit in Serie A at the time so you're not fully correct there about his reasons.
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