Middle East/Israeli Genocide on Palestine

Sea Sharp, you've been on here from when RK took the role in Israel with your clear affiliation and defending every post that speaks out against the Israeli government/army but the above highlighted is absolutely f*ckin sickening.

You should really be getting on to the multiple Human Rights Organisations, UN committees, scholars etc who have been saying for decades that what is happening in Palestine is aprtheid, but I suppose your opinion is more educated than those? 

It's no coincidence that countries like Ireland, Basque region etc are voicing theit opinion louder, why do you think that would be? Nearly 7000 Palestinians from 2008 alone have been killed by the Israeli government, in that time 150k Israelis have been killed. Taking any lives is abhorrent but let's not pretend here that it's somehow tit for tat here or those big bad Arabs are constantly at it. Its as one sided as you get. Why is it when certain countries defend occupation of fheir country they're "freedom fighters" but the Palestinians are terrorists? The same language being used year after year but the same media outlets.

Surely if you claim to oppose the Israeli occupation and oppose efforts to resit it you are essentially supporting the occupation? When the Palestinians bombed Israel, we need ceasefires etc but when the Israelis wipe out countless whole families year after year, not a peep. Like you, a lot of outlets always portrays Israel as acting in "retaliation" or "response" but never the AGGRESSOR. It's EU, imperialism, racism and hypocrisy being laid bare here. You'll be devasted that Ireland along with only 3 other countries have opposed EU proposal to suspend financial aid to Palestine so Palestinian kids will still get food now. 

Thats all il say on the matter or to you.

What's sickening about it? I provided a clear reference point. You're free to go and watch the PA-funded TV shows that encourage children to become martyrs for Palestine & Al-Aqsa. Their school textbooks refer to Tel Aviv as Occupied Palestine. There are references to Jews as barbaric monkeys, pigs and gods worst creations. To be clear, absolutely none of that is an excuse for Israel's militaristic crimes. But it is proof beyond doubt that Palestinians are being raised and pushed towards aspirations of martyrdom and rejection of a two-state solution. I am too young to know, but I can only hope and assume that Ireland wasn't running kids TV shows during the troubles teaching them how to stab Brits?

To be honest, I've never understood the point of comparing how many people have died on either side. Israel is infinitely stronger than the Palestinians and has a fully-fledged army, as opposed to militant groups operating from densely populated areas. Obviously Israel will have suffered less casualties? 

Freedom fighters vs terrorists part, I somewhat agree. If Hamas had breached the border and targeted IDF bases, you could say that's fair game, despite them being an internationally recognised terrorist organisation. But they didn't, and never have. Rockets fired from Gaza are aimed at civilians. This time they've murdered north of 700 civilians in cold blood. Not to mention there are also allegations of rape, which is about as barbaric as it gets.

I've also always thought referring to Israel as imperialistic is hilarious. One because it's roughly the size of Munster, and two, as previously covered, they would have never expanded beyond the 1948 borders if not for having to defend themselves from extermination. Granted there a few religious cranks with aspirations to reclaim all of Greater Israel (good luck with that one lads).

As for the bit I've bolded - typical. Why can't you engage with an opposing viewpoint without constructing strawman arguments to fit me in to your world view of the big evil child killing Zionist? It's pathetic and not in line with anything I've said.

 This has been nagged at me , how can Mossad miss this one they had to have know .

For me Netanyahu wanted this so he can clean out Hamas once and for all , hey could be wrong but i don't think so . 

I'm basing it off Netanyahu in power, post-2006. This opinion piece sort of sums it up:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

That's an interesting read, thanks for sharing. Definitely gives me a different perspective.

Badgersboys9 wrote: What's sickening about is the language. It's like something straight out of an Israeli propogandra pamphlet. The bits above about pepole seeing how the mask has slipped and people will now see the Palestinians as evil people etc etc. When I speak, I refer to the Israeli government and their army as I'm sure there are many decent good Israeli people.  The language on here this morning about an entire population in oppression is disgusting. Regarding your last point, I grew up in area were the Brits done horrendous things to the people, including my own family. I'd be republican opinionated but does that mean I think all British are the same, not at all. I have many good friends who are British. The language you are using above about a whole community of people and other posters saying "ask aa Arab" is a f*cking disgrace and deserves to be called out or challenged.

You're right. "The mask has slipped" is a loaded expression and I shouldn't have used it, it implies Palestinians are collectively responsible. I do still maintain the general sentiment that a lot of Westerners will have seen a new side of the Palestinian cause, in so far as that I don't think people would have expected Palestinians to celebrate senseless murder in the streets.

But your opinion on Brits reinforces my point. You weren't raised being told that Brits are subhumans or monkeys. You didn't watch TV shows that taught you how to stab them, or telling you that it's your duty to be a martyr for Ireland. When I refer to culturally endemic hatred and violence, I'm referring to content produced by Palestinian Authorities.

I assume you're referring to dead terrorists here, as I haven't seen that footage. Even still, that's barbaric, yeah. Not quite as bad as rape, murder and abduction, I would hope you agree.

You are incredibly stubborn, almost admirably so. There's always a "what about" up your sleeve. From baseless claims of Maccabi Tel Aviv having strong government ties to this, you don't give an inch!

Never i would say a it's been going off for 4000 years