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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 11:26am |
Mr. Snrub wrote:
nice triangles wrote:
Jimmy Raggatip wrote:
There's nothing from Mick's last reign that would make me believe he could have us qualifying for tournaments again. We struggled against the minnows and the better teams had us at arms length
the football is a relic of a bygone era.
Since his last stint with the national team
won 2 drawn 1 lost 5 with APOEL, a team with significant advantages over much of the league sacked by Cardiff after losing 8 in a row lasted 3 months at Blackpool after 2 wins in 14
a great man, a good man. But not a good manager in the modern era. It would be a disaster
pointing at the fact he qualified us for one tournament over 20 years ago lacks any nuance or thought
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Agree .... Never forget this game;
Have to say this was one of the worst Ireland performances I can remember, I include Stan, MON and SK in that. It was his first game back, but we were so so bad. |
Our blushes saved by Darren Randolph that day.
The 2nd Gib game was equally as bad. We needed an OG and a last minute Brady strike to get over the line, we were awful |
He made a great save alright but those that were at the game will remember the gale force winds. Was always going to be very difficult to play any type of decent football.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 11:38am |
Now that the thread has slowed down a bit, could someone give a factual summary of what's happened. Who was asked to take the job, who said no.
Every time I log in there's usually 150+ posts and I couldn't be arsed reading through all those pretending to be in the know, just to find the one bit of truth in the thread.
Anyway, a brief summary please, if you could
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 11:50am |
Summary -
Canham has been bluffing the whole time. No one wants the job. John O'Shea will most likely get the gig. O'She'a appointment will be dressed up as a successful appointment.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 1:33pm |
horsebox wrote:
Summary -
Canham has been bluffing the whole time. No one wants the job. John O'Shea will most likely get the gig. O'She'a appointment will be dressed up as a successful appointment. |
Great summary. Would add:
Expectations have dropped so low that having the O'Shea appointment done and dusted will be viewed as a victory.
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The Huntacha
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 1:58pm |
horsebox wrote:
Summary -
Canham has been bluffing the whole time. No one wants the job. John O'Shea will most likely get the gig. O'She'a appointment will be dressed up as a successful appointment. |
I still can’t believe he didn’t have O’Shea tied down before doing that video.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 2:10pm |
The Huntacha wrote:
horsebox wrote:
Summary -
Canham has been bluffing the whole time. No one wants the job. John O'Shea will most likely get the gig. O'She'a appointment will be dressed up as a successful appointment. |
I still can’t believe he didn’t have O’Shea tied down before doing that video. |
I think he probably tried but O'Shea will know the depth of the sh it he's in fully and will know what a mess the recruitment drive was. I don't get why O'Shea would hang around waiting to be the last person asked, like it seems to be, that doesn't add up.
I think O'Shea might have some demands / terms of his own at this point and has waited patiently for his moment when he can make them.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 2:24pm |
horsebox wrote:
Summary -
Canham has been bluffing the whole time. No one wants the job. John O'Shea will most likely get the gig. O'She'a appointment will be dressed up as a successful appointment. |
Some extra points:
The early contenders such as Coleman and Lennon now look like a great idea TooOldForThis is possibly Jonafan Hill or Mark with a C TJ won the war with Borussia (sleeper agent) Time is a flat circle (bring back Mick McCarthy)
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 2:25pm |
Hilarious thing is that OShea spent most of last week hanging around FAI HQ 😀😀😀
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 2:29pm |
Godzilla wrote:
horsebox wrote:
Summary -
Canham has been bluffing the whole time. No one wants the job. John O'Shea will most likely get the gig. O'She'a appointment will be dressed up as a successful appointment. |
Some extra points:
The early contenders such as Coleman and Lennon now look like a great idea TooOldForThis is possibly Jonafan Hill or Mark with a C TJ won the war with Borussia (sleeper agent) Time is a flat circle (bring back Mick McCarthy)
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I'd not class anybody who'd want Eoin Hand back right now as the winner of any war!
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 2:50pm |
Godzilla wrote:
horsebox wrote:
Summary -
Canham has been bluffing the whole time. No one wants the job. John O'Shea will most likely get the gig. O'She'a appointment will be dressed up as a successful appointment. |
Some extra points:
The early contenders such as Coleman and Lennon now look like a great idea TooOldForThis is possibly Jonafan Hill or Mark with a C TJ won the war with Borussia (sleeper agent) Time is a flat circle (bring back Mick McCarthy)
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The early contenders such as Coleman and Lennon now look like a great idea - Good God, no. TooOldForThis is possibly Jonafan Hill or Mark with a C - Definitely TJ won the war with Borussia (sleeper agent) - No decisive outcome. Time is a flat circle (bring back Mick McCarthy) - This would be a season ticket on the bonfire moment.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 3:15pm |
nice triangles wrote:
Jimmy Raggatip wrote:
There's nothing from Mick's last reign that would make me believe he could have us qualifying for tournaments again. We struggled against the minnows and the better teams had us at arms length
the football is a relic of a bygone era.
Since his last stint with the national team
won 2 drawn 1 lost 5 with APOEL, a team with significant advantages over much of the league sacked by Cardiff after losing 8 in a row lasted 3 months at Blackpool after 2 wins in 14
a great man, a good man. But not a good manager in the modern era. It would be a disaster
pointing at the fact he qualified us for one tournament over 20 years ago lacks any nuance or thought
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Agree .... Never forget this game;
Have to say this was one of the worst Ireland performances I can remember, I include Stan, MON and SK in that. It was his first game back, but we were so so bad. |
Why would you bracket MON with Stan and Kenny? It finished a bit of a damp squib with MON but it’s ridiculous for you to bracket him with Stan and Kenny. Stan and Kenny were an abject failure from start to finish. MON had success, got to Euro 16, did well at the tournament and play off place in the following qualifying campaign.
Absolutely ridiculous the way some people wipe things from history for reasons only known to themselves.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 3:33pm |
uibhfaillian wrote:
nice triangles wrote:
Jimmy Raggatip wrote:
There's nothing from Mick's last reign that would make me believe he could have us qualifying for tournaments again. We struggled against the minnows and the better teams had us at arms length
the football is a relic of a bygone era.
Since his last stint with the national team
won 2 drawn 1 lost 5 with APOEL, a team with significant advantages over much of the league sacked by Cardiff after losing 8 in a row lasted 3 months at Blackpool after 2 wins in 14
a great man, a good man. But not a good manager in the modern era. It would be a disaster
pointing at the fact he qualified us for one tournament over 20 years ago lacks any nuance or thought
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Agree .... Never forget this game;
Have to say this was one of the worst Ireland performances I can remember, I include Stan, MON and SK in that. It was his first game back, but we were so so bad. |
Why would you bracket MON with Stan and Kenny? It finished a bit of a damp squib with MON but it’s ridiculous for you to bracket him with Stan and Kenny. Stan and Kenny were an abject failure from start to finish. MON had success, got to Euro 16, did well at the tournament and play off place in the following qualifying campaign.
Absolutely ridiculous the way some people wipe things from history for reasons only known to themselves. |
I put MON in there because he had us playing some of the worst football I have ever seen Ireland play, up there with peak Trap. He did qualify us for Euro 2016, and fair play....but that was the luckiest campaign I can ever remember. The 1-0 win vs Germany where we realistically should have been beaten 6-1. The injury time equaliser at home to Poland as well when we got a chasing for 90 mins. We also got Bosnia in the play off, which was the draw from heaven. We also didn't 'do well' at the tournament. We had the Swedes on the ropes but threw it away. Got an absolute hiding from Belgium and beat a second string Italian team who were already through.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 3:51pm |
nice triangles wrote:
uibhfaillian wrote:
nice triangles wrote:
Jimmy Raggatip wrote:
There's nothing from Mick's last reign that would make me believe he could have us qualifying for tournaments again. We struggled against the minnows and the better teams had us at arms length
the football is a relic of a bygone era.
Since his last stint with the national team
won 2 drawn 1 lost 5 with APOEL, a team with significant advantages over much of the league sacked by Cardiff after losing 8 in a row lasted 3 months at Blackpool after 2 wins in 14
a great man, a good man. But not a good manager in the modern era. It would be a disaster
pointing at the fact he qualified us for one tournament over 20 years ago lacks any nuance or thought
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Agree .... Never forget this game;
Have to say this was one of the worst Ireland performances I can remember, I include Stan, MON and SK in that. It was his first game back, but we were so so bad. |
Why would you bracket MON with Stan and Kenny? It finished a bit of a damp squib with MON but it’s ridiculous for you to bracket him with Stan and Kenny. Stan and Kenny were an abject failure from start to finish. MON had success, got to Euro 16, did well at the tournament and play off place in the following qualifying campaign.
Absolutely ridiculous the way some people wipe things from history for reasons only known to themselves. |
I put MON in there because he had us playing some of the worst football I have ever seen Ireland play, up there with peak Trap. He did qualify us for Euro 2016, and fair play....but that was the luckiest campaign I can ever remember. The 1-0 win vs Germany where we realistically should have been beaten 6-1. The injury time equaliser at home to Poland as well when we got a chasing for 90 mins. We also got Bosnia in the play off, which was the draw from heaven. We also didn't 'do well' at the tournament. We had the Swedes on the ropes but threw it away. Got an absolute hiding from Belgium and beat a second string Italian team who were already through. |
So much wrong with this post, we held our own in Euro 2016. What we'd give to be anywhere near that level now
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 3:56pm |
uibhfaillian wrote:
nice triangles wrote:
Jimmy Raggatip wrote:
There's nothing from Mick's last reign that would make me believe he could have us qualifying for tournaments again. We struggled against the minnows and the better teams had us at arms length
the football is a relic of a bygone era.
Since his last stint with the national team
won 2 drawn 1 lost 5 with APOEL, a team with significant advantages over much of the league sacked by Cardiff after losing 8 in a row lasted 3 months at Blackpool after 2 wins in 14
a great man, a good man. But not a good manager in the modern era. It would be a disaster
pointing at the fact he qualified us for one tournament over 20 years ago lacks any nuance or thought
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Agree .... Never forget this game;
Have to say this was one of the worst Ireland performances I can remember, I include Stan, MON and SK in that. It was his first game back, but we were so so bad. |
Why would you bracket MON with Stan and Kenny? It finished a bit of a damp squib with MON but it’s ridiculous for you to bracket him with Stan and Kenny. Stan and Kenny were an abject failure from start to finish. MON had success, got to Euro 16, did well at the tournament and play off place in the following qualifying campaign.
Absolutely ridiculous the way some people wipe things from history for reasons only known to themselves. |
I know some fans have trouble accepting it but Kenny didn't underperform with the quality of players available so to liken him to Stan is absurd. Staunton by comparison had a great team.
No non-Irish person would look at our squad and think a 60th Fifa ranking or finishing behind Serbia, Portugal, France, Netherlands and Greece in qualifying is an under performance. The entire disconnect of fan expectation versus reality is why this position has been so hard to fill, every potential manager knows that to be considered successful they need to deliver miracles.
Edited by Inkennywetrust - 23 Apr 2024 at 3:57pm
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 3:57pm |
Baldrick wrote:
gmfc90 wrote:
424 pages. It'll be 700 by the time Bruce is announced |
Nah I reckon lots of people have tuned out. We don’t care anymore. |
Me for one. The past weekend was probably the 1st one in years I didn't actively look for how the Irish players got on in their club games, cos what's the fcukin point
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 4:00pm |
Inkennywetrust wrote:
uibhfaillian wrote:
nice triangles wrote:
Jimmy Raggatip wrote:
There's nothing from Mick's last reign that would make me believe he could have us qualifying for tournaments again. We struggled against the minnows and the better teams had us at arms length
the football is a relic of a bygone era.
Since his last stint with the national team
won 2 drawn 1 lost 5 with APOEL, a team with significant advantages over much of the league sacked by Cardiff after losing 8 in a row lasted 3 months at Blackpool after 2 wins in 14
a great man, a good man. But not a good manager in the modern era. It would be a disaster
pointing at the fact he qualified us for one tournament over 20 years ago lacks any nuance or thought
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Agree .... Never forget this game;
Have to say this was one of the worst Ireland performances I can remember, I include Stan, MON and SK in that. It was his first game back, but we were so so bad. |
Why would you bracket MON with Stan and Kenny? It finished a bit of a damp squib with MON but it’s ridiculous for you to bracket him with Stan and Kenny. Stan and Kenny were an abject failure from start to finish. MON had success, got to Euro 16, did well at the tournament and play off place in the following qualifying campaign.
Absolutely ridiculous the way some people wipe things from history for reasons only known to themselves. |
I know some fans have trouble accepting it but Kenny didn't underperform with the quality of players available so to liken him to Stan is absurd. Staunton by comparison had a great team.
No non-Irish person would look at our squad and think a 60th Fifa ranking or finishing behind Serbia, Portugal, France, Netherlands and Greece in qualifying is an under performance. The entire disconnect of fan expectation versus reality is why this position has been so hard to fill, every potential manager knows that to be considered successful they need to deliver miracles.
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Stan definitely had better players than MON, and MON had better players than Kenny. Kenny still should have done better with the players available to him. I really wanted him to do well, but he failed at the job.
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Posted: 23 Apr 2024 at 8:01pm |
Borussia wrote:
Godzilla wrote:
[QUOTE=horsebox]Summary -
Canham has been bluffing the whole time. No one wants the job. John O'Shea will most likely get the gig. O'She'a appointment will be dressed up as a successful appointment. |
Some extra points:
The early contenders such as Coleman and Lennon now look like a great idea TooOldForThis is possibly Jonafan Hill or Mark with a C TJ won the war with Borussia (sleeper agent) Time is a flat circle (bring back Mick McCarthy)
[/QUOTE3]Christy Browne all along.... best outsider.. 2/1 bookies favourite.. Barter Account will payout and the winner and receive flip flops for the upcoming Taylor Swift Concert in the Aviva, sitting next to Marty Morrissey, and he'll drive you home on the Renault he borrowed for 5 years. birds of a feather symdrome.
I'd not class anybody who'd want Eoin Hand back right now as the winner of any war! |
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