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Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

so your suggesting they are going after Latvia now ?


They've always wanted it but that Evil entity known as NATO is preventing it. 

Also stop blabbering about twitter. It's straight from the horses mouth. 


I love these incursions because it means Russia damages it's own territory. 

Ah great another twitter link to back up an argument.

I actually agree with you about random twitter pages. Difference in some of the original tweets was they came from Medvedev himself.
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Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

so your suggesting they are going after Latvia now ?


They've always wanted it but that Evil entity known as NATO is preventing it. 

Also stop blabbering about twitter. It's straight from the horses mouth. 


I love these incursions because it means Russia damages it's own territory. 

Ah great another twitter link to back up an argument.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 

It's the content of the video that matters. Do you want me to download it and email it to you? Because twitter isn't the original source either it's the drone recording 😂
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Happy paddys day folks gonna take the day off LOL
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Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Happy paddys day folks gonna take the day off LOL
I'm just back from the parade with the kids. HAPPY St. Vatnick's Day 🎉
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Goes over old ground but He's always worth a listen to 



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Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Goes over old ground but He's always worth a listen to 




It’s the same tired old claptrap that deliberately links everything back to the USA, and ignoring simply facts about Russian expansionism that started in 1992 the agency of the Ukrainian people and the Euromaidan, or the sovereignty of a state to expand in the way it chooses. The only way somebody like Sachs can reach the conclusion he does is by cherry picking facts that suit the narrative that this was stoked by the US. It’s rather bog standard theory being spouted by somebody with big credentials. It’s from the Chomsky school of foreign affairs which in spite of all the acolytes he has, is bog standard and predictable. It was worth a listen simply to realise there is nothing original about JS’ position, or compelling.
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Euromaiden LOL all that means is CIA sponsored criminals
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Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Euromaiden LOL all that means is CIA sponsored criminals

You can’t even spell right, so you couldn’t possibly understand it.
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Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Euromaiden LOL all that means is CIA sponsored criminals
There seems to be two types of people. Those who blame Russia and those who blame the CIA/NATO/USA/The West etc. Very few people blame Ukraine themselves. 
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

[QUOTE=TRV]Euromaiden LOL all that means is CIA sponsored criminals

You can’t even spell right, so you couldn’t possibly understand it.

Undirstend what? Blooshirt 
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Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

[QUOTE=TRV]Euromaiden LOL all that means is CIA sponsored criminals

You can’t even spell right, so you couldn’t possibly understand it.

Undirstend what? Blooshirt 

Maybe try writing that again? In English this time.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Goes over old ground but He's always worth a listen to 




It’s the same tired old claptrap that deliberately links everything back to the USA, and ignoring simply facts about Russian expansionism that started in 1992 the agency of the Ukrainian people and the Euromaidan, or the sovereignty of a state to expand in the way it chooses. The only way somebody like Sachs can reach the conclusion he does is by cherry picking facts that suit the narrative that this was stoked by the US. It’s rather bog standard theory being spouted by somebody with big credentials. It’s from the Chomsky school of foreign affairs which in spite of all the acolytes he has, is bog standard and predictable. It was worth a listen simply to realise there is nothing original about JS’ position, or compelling.

Russian Expanionism started in 1992?

They may be cherry picked facts but they remain facts.

It still goes back to what I was saying that the US was acting the maggott over there, so We will never know if the invasion wouldve happened in the absence of it.

Anyway We are still left ot believe in one school of thought or the other and the truth may be somewhere between the two. It can be hard with overseas ventures and interference to link them to see an outcome. Perhaps the likes of JS/chomsky see them correctly or perhaps they join dots incorrectly.
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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Euromaiden LOL all that means is CIA sponsored criminals
There seems to be two types of people. Those who blame Russia and those who blame the CIA/NATO/USA/The West etc. Very few people blame Ukraine themselves. 

This is an interesting point alright. 
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Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Goes over old ground but He's always worth a listen to 




It’s the same tired old claptrap that deliberately links everything back to the USA, and ignoring simply facts about Russian expansionism that started in 1992 the agency of the Ukrainian people and the Euromaidan, or the sovereignty of a state to expand in the way it chooses. The only way somebody like Sachs can reach the conclusion he does is by cherry picking facts that suit the narrative that this was stoked by the US. It’s rather bog standard theory being spouted by somebody with big credentials. It’s from the Chomsky school of foreign affairs which in spite of all the acolytes he has, is bog standard and predictable. It was worth a listen simply to realise there is nothing original about JS’ position, or compelling.

Russian Expanionism started in 1992?

They may be cherry picked facts but they remain facts.

It still goes back to what I was saying that the US was acting the maggott over there, so We will never know if the invasion wouldve happened in the absence of it.

Anyway We are still left ot believe in one school of thought or the other and the truth may be somewhere between the two. It can be hard with overseas ventures and interference to link them to see an outcome. Perhaps the likes of JS/chomsky see them correctly or perhaps they join dots incorrectly.
The alternative was a puppet state like Belarus. Either way a pretty sh*tty outcome for Ukraine.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote OohAah... Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 2024 at 9:25am
Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Goes over old ground but He's always worth a listen to 




It’s the same tired old claptrap that deliberately links everything back to the USA, and ignoring simply facts about Russian expansionism that started in 1992 the agency of the Ukrainian people and the Euromaidan, or the sovereignty of a state to expand in the way it chooses. The only way somebody like Sachs can reach the conclusion he does is by cherry picking facts that suit the narrative that this was stoked by the US. It’s rather bog standard theory being spouted by somebody with big credentials. It’s from the Chomsky school of foreign affairs which in spite of all the acolytes he has, is bog standard and predictable. It was worth a listen simply to realise there is nothing original about JS’ position, or compelling.

Russian Expanionism started in 1992?

They may be cherry picked facts but they remain facts.

It still goes back to what I was saying that the US was acting the maggott over there, so We will never know if the invasion wouldve happened in the absence of it.

Anyway We are still left ot believe in one school of thought or the other and the truth may be somewhere between the two. It can be hard with overseas ventures and interference to link them to see an outcome. Perhaps the likes of JS/chomsky see them correctly or perhaps they join dots incorrectly.
The alternative was a puppet state like Belarus. Either way a pretty sh*tty outcome for Ukraine.
Why is Belarus a puppet state for Russia whereas even the likes of us not a puppet state for the US?
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Define puppet state? 
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Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Goes over old ground but He's always worth a listen to 




It’s the same tired old claptrap that deliberately links everything back to the USA, and ignoring simply facts about Russian expansionism that started in 1992 the agency of the Ukrainian people and the Euromaidan, or the sovereignty of a state to expand in the way it chooses. The only way somebody like Sachs can reach the conclusion he does is by cherry picking facts that suit the narrative that this was stoked by the US. It’s rather bog standard theory being spouted by somebody with big credentials. It’s from the Chomsky school of foreign affairs which in spite of all the acolytes he has, is bog standard and predictable. It was worth a listen simply to realise there is nothing original about JS’ position, or compelling.

Russian Expanionism started in 1992?

They may be cherry picked facts but they remain facts.

It still goes back to what I was saying that the US was acting the maggott over there, so We will never know if the invasion wouldve happened in the absence of it.

Anyway We are still left ot believe in one school of thought or the other and the truth may be somewhere between the two. It can be hard with overseas ventures and interference to link them to see an outcome. Perhaps the likes of JS/chomsky see them correctly or perhaps they join dots incorrectly.
The alternative was a puppet state like Belarus. Either way a pretty sh*tty outcome for Ukraine.
Why is Belarus a puppet state for Russia whereas even the likes of us not a puppet state for the US?
If we decide to go a direction the US doesn't like worst case scenario economic sanctions which anyone is entitled to do. We're not going to have a 3 day US military intervention of Dublin although we'd gladly give them south Dublin anyway. 
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well done again on not answering OohAah's question 
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