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We have to be playing him centrally as opposed to having him scraping for bit and pieces out on the wing. Simple
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Originally posted by darmack darmack wrote:

Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Are Celtic really going to get into a transfer battle for a lad who'll likely have no resale value given his age.


How's James McCarthy getting on?


Yes because picking up an experienced player on a free transfer is the same as spending possibly ten million on one. What they'd spend on Szmodics they'd probably buy a couple of youngsters with resale value instead.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Are Celtic really going to get into a transfer battle for a lad who'll likely have no resale value given his age.

How's James McCarthy getting on?
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Are Celtic really going to get into a transfer battle for a lad who'll likely have no resale value given his age.

No. He's been capped by Ireland so Celtic are linked, its standard. 
Same way they're signing Kelleher in the summer apparently
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Man gets 2 Ireland caps and Celtic already gagging to ruin his career!
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Godzilla Godzilla wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

Originally posted by athlonecelt athlonecelt wrote:

Up front with Ferguson. 
3 at the back. 5 across Mf with Ogbennie wide right
3 at the back doesn't work when you play the likes of Coleman and Brady as your wingbacks. Sleepy

We build our team around the 3 at the back, this is why we're failing. Time to branch into a more conservative formation. 4-2-3-1 would suit our players down to the ground and allow Sammie to play in his best position.

Fully agree

We should play our centre backs as full backs in my view like Man City and let our wide players carry the threat and our 4 defenders defend and come narrow if they have to.  

I would have a back four of OShea Scales Collins Omabamidele. And try O Brien there too if scales is out.  Protect it with Cullen and Molumby/Smallbone and have a front four of Johnston Szmodics Ogbene and Ferguson against weaker sides and against
Good team drop Johnston for Knight.

Yes I was thinking this too. We've 4 or 5 good centre backs but no good left back, so one could play there. 
I also think Ogbene is better in the attacking third of the field and not as good in the wing back role. 

City have very technical and mobile CBs playing at FB. And it's mainly a back three anyway. It depends on the phase of play. 

They also have Rodri and Stones/Kovacic receiving the ball from the defence compared to Cullen/Smallbone/Molumby.

Ake and Akanji can cover large spaces and are duel specialists. 




You can say that about every formation that there is a team out
There that’s better than us playing it.  It doesn’t mean we have to copy city’s style.  

We don’t have the players that Ajax had at
Their prime or Contes Italy or Chelsea but are playing 3 4 3 

Our full backs are crap and our centre backs are good.  Play 4 centre backs 2 who are very mobile and keep it tight at the back.  Allows you to get the attacking players on In front 4.  

No need to reference City initially then?

You can also kept it tight at the back with three centre backs and two wing backs. A back five when defending.

I'm not a fan of O'Shea playing at LB long term. Scales probably doesn't have the pace to play there long term. O'Shea has the necessary athleticism, but it's difficult playing out of position on your weaker side.

Omobamdiele could be a good RB option in a flat back four. He's got the athletic ability combined with a good technical level.
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Originally posted by Godzilla Godzilla wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

Originally posted by athlonecelt athlonecelt wrote:

Up front with Ferguson. 
3 at the back. 5 across Mf with Ogbennie wide right
3 at the back doesn't work when you play the likes of Coleman and Brady as your wingbacks. Sleepy

We build our team around the 3 at the back, this is why we're failing. Time to branch into a more conservative formation. 4-2-3-1 would suit our players down to the ground and allow Sammie to play in his best position.

Fully agree

We should play our centre backs as full backs in my view like Man City and let our wide players carry the threat and our 4 defenders defend and come narrow if they have to.  

I would have a back four of OShea Scales Collins Omabamidele. And try O Brien there too if scales is out.  Protect it with Cullen and Molumby/Smallbone and have a front four of Johnston Szmodics Ogbene and Ferguson against weaker sides and against
Good team drop Johnston for Knight.

Yes I was thinking this too. We've 4 or 5 good centre backs but no good left back, so one could play there. 
I also think Ogbene is better in the attacking third of the field and not as good in the wing back role. 

City have very technical and mobile CBs playing at FB. And it's mainly a back three anyway. It depends on the phase of play. 

They also have Rodri and Stones/Kovacic receiving the ball from the defence compared to Cullen/Smallbone/Molumby.

Ake and Akanji can cover large spaces and are duel specialists. 




You can say that about every formation that there is a team out
There that’s better than us playing it.  It doesn’t mean we have to copy city’s style.  

We don’t have the players that Ajax had at
Their prime or Contes Italy or Chelsea but are playing 3 4 3 

Our full backs are crap and our centre backs are good.  Play 4 centre backs 2 who are very mobile and keep it tight at the back.  Allows you to get the attacking players on In front 4.  
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Celtic reported to be keen on signing Szmodics now as well as Brentford, Luton and Fulham.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

Originally posted by athlonecelt athlonecelt wrote:

Up front with Ferguson. 
3 at the back. 5 across Mf with Ogbennie wide right
3 at the back doesn't work when you play the likes of Coleman and Brady as your wingbacks. Sleepy

We build our team around the 3 at the back, this is why we're failing. Time to branch into a more conservative formation. 4-2-3-1 would suit our players down to the ground and allow Sammie to play in his best position.

Fully agree

We should play our centre backs as full backs in my view like Man City and let our wide players carry the threat and our 4 defenders defend and come narrow if they have to.  

I would have a back four of OShea Scales Collins Omabamidele. And try O Brien there too if scales is out.  Protect it with Cullen and Molumby/Smallbone and have a front four of Johnston Szmodics Ogbene and Ferguson against weaker sides and against
Good team drop Johnston for Knight.

Yes I was thinking this too. We've 4 or 5 good centre backs but no good left back, so one could play there. 
I also think Ogbene is better in the attacking third of the field and not as good in the wing back role. 

City have very technical and mobile CBs playing at FB. And it's mainly a back three anyway. It depends on the phase of play. 

They also have Rodri and Stones/Kovacic receiving the ball from the defence compared to Cullen/Smallbone/Molumby.

Ake and Akanji can cover large spaces and are duel specialists. 
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OShea has real pace.  Saw it at times on tuesday too esp when we “chased” the game towards the end.  Omobamidele is fast too.  

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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

Originally posted by athlonecelt athlonecelt wrote:

Up front with Ferguson. 
3 at the back. 5 across Mf with Ogbennie wide right
3 at the back doesn't work when you play the likes of Coleman and Brady as your wingbacks. Sleepy

We build our team around the 3 at the back, this is why we're failing. Time to branch into a more conservative formation. 4-2-3-1 would suit our players down to the ground and allow Sammie to play in his best position.

Fully agree

We should play our centre backs as full backs in my view like Man City and let our wide players carry the threat and our 4 defenders defend and come narrow if they have to.  

I would have a back four of OShea Scales Collins Omabamidele. And try O Brien there too if scales is out.  Protect it with Cullen and Molumby/Smallbone and have a front four of Johnston Szmodics Ogbene and Ferguson against weaker sides and against
Good team drop Johnston for Knight.

Yes I was thinking this too. We've 4 or 5 good centre backs but no good left back, so one could play there. 
I also think Ogbene is better in the attacking third of the field and not as good in the wing back role. 
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

Originally posted by athlonecelt athlonecelt wrote:

Up front with Ferguson. 
3 at the back. 5 across Mf with Ogbennie wide right
3 at the back doesn't work when you play the likes of Coleman and Brady as your wingbacks. Sleepy

We build our team around the 3 at the back, this is why we're failing. Time to branch into a more conservative formation. 4-2-3-1 would suit our players down to the ground and allow Sammie to play in his best position.

Fully agree

We should play our centre backs as full backs in my view like Man City and let our wide players carry the threat and our 4 defenders defend and come narrow if they have to.  

I would have a back four of OShea Scales Collins Omabamidele. And try O Brien there too if scales is out.  Protect it with Cullen and Molumby/Smallbone and have a front four of Johnston Szmodics Ogbene and Ferguson against weaker sides and against
Good team drop Johnston for Knight.


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Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

Originally posted by athlonecelt athlonecelt wrote:

Up front with Ferguson. 
3 at the back. 5 across Mf with Ogbennie wide right
3 at the back doesn't work when you play the likes of Coleman and Brady as your wingbacks. Sleepy

We build our team around the 3 at the back, this is why we're failing. Time to branch into a more conservative formation. 4-2-3-1 would suit our players down to the ground and allow Sammie to play in his best position.

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Did Szammie play as a midfielder at Peterborough?
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