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Luis Amor Rodriguez
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Posted: 13 Nov 2016 at 4:44pm |
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We should be looking for 3 points here, but 1 would not be end-of-the-world stuff.
Fingers crossed one of Bale or Ramsey will be injured, as without either of them, they start to look ordinary. Given Brady's suspension, the best 11 for that match would be the below. The aim should be a high-intensity pressing game like v Austria, with Hoolahan to come on second half when players get leggy to do his customary gloriously weighted assist. Serious pace on that team to nail Wales on the counter (as v Austria) (I know we're at home, but they'll have to do a lot of the running as they'll treat this a must-win given their position in the table). By then, we might possibly have Hogan as a pacy sub for Long. Randolph Duffy Clark Coleman Ward McCarthy Hendrick Arter Walters McClean Long
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GUFC_Andy
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We should be aiming for 3 points in this, we are better than Wales
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SByrne24
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2-0 Ireland.
We put the nail in their coffin, end their campaign at least their fans can enjoy temple that evening and we march on towards tipping the group. We're a fair bit better then Wales we should be able to run their defence into serious issue. Scott Hogan on the bench. Edited by SByrne24 - 13 Nov 2016 at 5:32pm |
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I see he was at the UFC last night to watch Conor McGregor with John Egan.
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The only way is up
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SByrne24
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I seen that myself, that can only be a good thing for us. |
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I imagine Ireland being top of their qualifying group heading into the winter break can only be sharpening his mind.
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irishmufc
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How on earth are we a fair bit better better than Wales? Like the Scotland games this will be another tight battle.
And Wales have a player that has to be watched all the times. I don't know where you're getting that we've serious pace on our team without Brady for this game. Wales are pacier than us. A draw won't be a disaster and even if we win only 1 of the home games against Wales,Serbia & Austria and draw the other two that could be enough to win the group. Our 2 toughest away games out of the way. We are in a seriously good position. We've had a good bit of luck it has to be said in the Serbia, Georgia and Austria games when it came to the woodwork saving us but we deserve it and delighted for the players who run themselves into the ground for Ireland. Edited by irishmufc - 13 Nov 2016 at 6:23pm |
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
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Re Pace. Shane Long is the fastest player, bar none, in the Premier League.
James McClean is the fifth fastest. Our playing style should use that fact to our advantage - as it did last night, and it did against Germany.
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I can't wait for this. We need to go for a win and put the final nail in the Welsh coffin. However as somebody said previously, a draw isn't the end of the world for us.
Any idea when tickets go on sale for this?
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irishmufc
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We have individuals with pace but our system is and has to be compact and our approach pragmatic. We don't have the players to play an expansive game and leave ourselves open. Our wingers constantly have to come back and cover our full backs so we can keep it tight when we're playing better opposition. Our wins last night and against Germany had nothing to do with a pacey playing style but trying to keep a defensive shape that's difficult to break down. I think in regards to the Wales game even though we're at home Wales probably know they need to win moree than we neccessarily do.O'Neill may keep this in mind and not overcommit unless the game is not going well for us. |
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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lassassinblanc
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People saying they hope Bale is missing f**k Bale Ramsey is the one you want out of this game, Bale is nothing without him as was shown in Euros when he wasn't there against Portugal.
if we stick a man on Bale he does nothing. Welsh defence is very suspect Long's pace will cause them trouble, also as shown with Mitrovic's goal last night if we are to target balls into box bar Williams (perhaps) they have no real physical player to challenge. 3-1 I reckon
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Green Devil
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Please stop, that is one of the most outrageous comments I've ever seen on here. Bale scored yesterday without Ramsey setting him up. Bale set up Vokes against Moldova, he scored against Moldova after pouncing on a mistake, he also won and scored a penalty too. (Ramsey wasn't playing) Bale scored against Georgia, from a great header. He is also by far and away Wales most creative player in terms assists, never mind scoring 12 goals in his last 17 games for Wales. I'm sorry Lass but that's one silly statement and has been tore apart by the stats.
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irishmufc
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Lass have you morphed into Henry Sellers or something? Did Bale sack you from the BBC? Bale is nothing without Ramsey Ridiculous post. Bale can be marked out of a game and still hurt us on a set piece. He's a huge danger to us. |
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lassassinblanc
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maybe a little over the top perhaps I still think that Ramsey is more dangerous
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irishmufc
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I take your point on Ramsey being a very effective player for Wales but Bale is the biggest threat and most dangerous in a goal scoring sense. You have to remember that our team won't underestimate Wales's midfielders the way teams like Belgium might have before which is why I think this could be a tit-for-tat battle at home next march and them not winning in Dublin could be a point gained rather than 2 lost as it keeps them 4 points behind us. If it's 0-0 with 20 minutes to go I can see MON being less cautious and try to get us to press high and win the game. |
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horsebox
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Why are people discussing a game that is around 18 weeks away?
Absolutely anything can happen in the meantime! people naming their starting 11 too - crazy talk. |
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
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The benefits of pace in the team and playing a compact system are two sides of the same coin. They're based on (i) defending well with 11 men as a unit and then (ii) being able to break quickly from your own half when possession changes, with Long (v Germany) or McClean (v Austria) being able to simply outrun the defenders - before executing wonderful finishes. Pace is not particularly useful in an expansive game where the premium is on passing and teams are already back defending. We're clearly not a possession team playing expansive football. Our best play it defending well and striking back fast when play and the other team's structure is disrupted.
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