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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Online Points: 10744 |
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It doesn’t impact them in the same way as it will disproportionately impact the disadvantaged in the USA, or the marginalised. Worst of all, they have gaslight some of the most impoverished people in the US to believe that Trump and his pals are ‘on their side.’ But that won’t impact Irish people shilling for Trump. Just like we have a bunch of people in Ireland forgetting their own history and siding with Russia (or at least Russian narrative) in Russia’s efforts to subjugate and wipe Ukraine off the map.
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The GerK
Moderator Group Razor you wanna pint?...2 minutes later Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 20550 |
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What's a Covid denier exactly?
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Deane
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Where did I say that?
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Artie Ziff
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The pic of Trump's mugshot, he looks completely deranged.
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It would damage this forums' reputation
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Wheelo
Liam Brady Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Location: Drogheda Status: Offline Points: 2367 |
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Seen as trump never denied the presence of Covid, I can only presume that it’s a lazy term to throw at those that recognised that Covid was a “thing”, in the exact same way as a cold/flu is a “thing”, but didn’t buy into the whole maud Flanders’s/ restriction/ masks ott reaction to it
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"Not surprised you are anti foreigner in your so called Kip of a town when you don’t want a manager because he is Swedish and you want big Sam in charge" - a fine post from a fine ybig poster
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SeaSharp
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Wheelo
Liam Brady Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Location: Drogheda Status: Offline Points: 2367 |
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So are you able to tell us what a covid denier is so? You're not able to bring much to the table here so far.... Going back on topic re American politics, its a sad state of affairs when the last presidential election was a choice between sleepy Joe and trump. I know an American couple who are about 50, ex army, who both work in a hospital now (and both nearly lost their jobs for refusing to get vaccinated - their point was that they saw every day first hand in the hospital what was happening, saw people been given an official cause of death as "covid" when reality was different, etc). Anyway, they were both very vocal democrats all their lives up until a few years ago. Last election, they begrudgingly voted for trump and first time ever voting non democrat (despite thinking he's a bit of a head banger , but still better than joe), and find themselves veering more to right by way of default as the left go too far on things. We give out about our own politicans but genuinely believe we've a better calibre of people than Boris or trump (which is worrying when you consider the population of both countries) |
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"Not surprised you are anti foreigner in your so called Kip of a town when you don’t want a manager because he is Swedish and you want big Sam in charge" - a fine post from a fine ybig poster
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32826 |
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So they are blaming their shift to the right because a party that would be right wing in any other country as being too left wing 😀😀😀. So tell us on what metric was Trump better than Biden? Sounds like your friends have just done the classic thing of becoming right wing as they get older as they more money and less stake in society and less time left and want to hang on to it. It’s the classic thing of becoming more selfish as they get older. |
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Wheelo
Liam Brady Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Location: Drogheda Status: Offline Points: 2367 |
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No, not at all, had a good chat with them about it recently, not going into depth about it now, but not like that at all.
But in a nutshell, they view the left as going way too far to the otherside now compared onba number of issues to where it was a number of years ago. Based on what points, that's up to them, but very interesting listening to them about how they see america/ society changing. Easy for us to have an opinion on Americans views watching cnn and fox though, isn't it? Re Biden v trump, I thibk they're both rubbish. Trump is someone who is off his head and is a loose canon - Biden is far too old, can barely stay awake at key moment and as said above health is questionable. To have the 2 of them as the option to lead a country the size of America is mental
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"Not surprised you are anti foreigner in your so called Kip of a town when you don’t want a manager because he is Swedish and you want big Sam in charge" - a fine post from a fine ybig poster
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Het-field
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Even taking this ‘sleepy Joe’ trope at face value, it still makes him infinitely more preferable to a loose canon, who is ‘off his head.’ There is no Hobson’s choice here.
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Wheelo
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I genuinely don’t know who I’d vote for myself as I think they’re both rubbish. I’d have serious concerns about both their heads to be honest! Biden would probably be seen as the “safer” option. But again, it’s comes back to the point that it’s a sad state of American politics when it was a choice between those two
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"Not surprised you are anti foreigner in your so called Kip of a town when you don’t want a manager because he is Swedish and you want big Sam in charge" - a fine post from a fine ybig poster
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Baldrick
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You say the left. Who are they referencing. There is so little left wing politics in the states. The Democrats are a right wing party in any other country. So who is going to far.
By the way I lived in the states and have spoke to Trump supporters, republican supporters and democratic supporters and democratic socialists. The Reagan democrats have returned to the republicans esp in the Rustbelt. Most are white and have north western European heritage and probably see democrats as too woke. I suspect your friends are similar.
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SeaSharp
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We are talking about a country who thinks nationalised health care and abortion is woke and communism. What is even the point engaging in the politics of these nutjobs. USA is amazing in many respects, but politically it is too far gone
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irishmufc
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Anyone that falsely equivocates Biden with Trump just like Hilary was with Trump in 2016 is either totally ignorant of the threat Trump is to democracy with his authoritarian inclinations or is letting their infantile contrarian mask slip.
The fact that Trump is 40 points up on the rest of the Republican primary field tells you everything you needed to know about his cultist followers. At least Chris Christie is actually discussing issues (even if you don't agree) instead of engaging in the culture war nonsense. They could vote for him and have their right wing agenda rammed through without having to tear down the rule of law and their system of government.
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Het-field
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Well said, and that is with the context of a 4 year Trump Presidency, and what unfolded in the aftermath. There is a cadre of his supporters that are genuinely dangerous and not exclusively in terms of their voting intentions. Insurrection, sedition, treachery. The whole gambit. His proxies like Low IQ-Anon (MTG) are now supposed ‘patriots’ batting for Russia. Yes, so extreme in their ideology that they are now backing American enemies. At one time the Clinton/Trump false equivalence seemed misplaced. Now it’s just blatantly wrong. In short supporting Trump means ‘I’m so pro-America that I’m anti-America.’ It’s worth reading the sad story in a California where a shop owner was shot over a row over an LGBTQ+ flag. The shooter was vehemently against the cause. Their values and opinions are so incredibly warped that their opposition to the cause and a dispute led to them fatally opening fire on somebody else.
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Baldrick
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Yeah but wheelo spoke to a couple who lived in the states so he has the inside track.
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King_Kenny
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Says the the lad who swallowed JD😂
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Baldrick
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What ?
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