Shamrock Rovers Thread

pre Madonna wrote: Fair play on being optimistic, but it could also be said that you lost 8-0 over two games with City, were outplayed by a very average Bohs and gave Dundalk their easiest game of the season.

Am I happy with recent form? No. Do I see the direction the club is going and am reasonably content in the circumstances to shed the waste and see out the season? Ish.

roverstillidie wrote: pre Madonna wrote: Fair play on being optimistic, but it could also be said that you lost 8-0 over two games with City, were outplayed by a very average Bohs and gave Dundalk their easiest game of the season.  Am I happy with recent form? No. Do I see the direction the club is going and am reasonably content in the circumstances to shed the waste and see out the season? Ish.   Worst team since Roddy 10 years ago? Not sure. Trevor Kenny's teams had more talent but were harder to watch and also took some unmerciful hidings. Again, we are still fourth, so it can't be that bad, despite some very hard to take beatings.

roverstillidie wrote: They were hard to take, but I recall taking a serious beating off Pats under Scully and MON each. We are limping out the season, no mistake, but I am happy that players who had no right being at the club like the Brennans and North are gone. A decision has been taken to not go down that journeyman route any more. Signing Pats best player of last season has failed and failed for a while. Short term pain etc. Stick that cash in a pot and use it next year. We know now that the kids on the fringes are good enough to compete but not good enough yet for a challenge. We are confident the kids behind them have potential to raise the bar again. So lets get a manager in, which I believe is imminent, and agree a new signing policy to augment the academy structure.

roverstillidie wrote: pre Madonna wrote: The performances mentioned would suggest otherwise though. Some do, yes. But we drew with Dundalk up there, fought back from 2-0 down in the Brandywell, were unlucky to be held by Pats, beaten minnow clubs like Galway, Wexford and Athlone with ease. We know we are behind Dundalk and Cork and they proved it. I am more worried about losing to mid table muck like that D7 shower to be honest.

roverstillidie wrote: Define near the top of the table? We are fourth with an outside chance of third and qualified for Europe with 5 players over the age of 25 for half a season.   Your concern is admirable and touching, but I think you are being wishfully pessimistic.

CillDara wrote: What is the aim of this current 'project' at Shamrock Rovers? It's like something someone would try in football manager. They are going way over the top on giving youth a chance, barely any senior players in the squad anymore, between last night and the hammering by Cork plus getting knocked out of the cup by them surely they have to realise it isn't working??  Will there be massive overhaul in the close season? I presume a new coach will be coming in, and he will need to bring in a good few players if he wants to turn them into a team competing for the title.

The aim of the project is to stop signing duds like Quigley, the Brennans and North because they had a good season or two elsewhere because it simply does not work. We have a very good youth structure which will only improve with the current investment and aim to have a spine of a squad from this pool and sign established players differently. This year saw a shedding of total wage stealers who were no better than the kids that replaced them. There have been some horrific results, but we know that with no investment we are a mid table side. In the short term we may not win the league, we haven't competed properly since MON left anyway, and fans accept that, because we see the plans and believe conceptually in what the board are trying to do.

So what are you suggesting? We kept the Brennans and limped out the season with a higher wagebill?

roverstillidie wrote: CillDara wrote: What is the aim of this current 'project' at Shamrock Rovers? It's like something someone would try in football manager. They are going way over the top on giving youth a chance, barely any senior players in the squad anymore, between last night and the hammering by Cork plus getting knocked out of the cup by them surely they have to realise it isn't working??  Will there be massive overhaul in the close season? I presume a new coach will be coming in, and he will need to bring in a good few players if he wants to turn them into a team competing for the title. The aim of the project is to stop signing duds like Quigley, the Brennans and North because they had a good season or two elsewhere because it simply does not work. We have a very good youth structure which will only improve with the current investment and aim to have a spine of a squad from this pool and sign established players differently. This year saw a shedding of total wage stealers who were no better than the kids that replaced them. There have been some horrific results, but we know that with no investment we are a mid table side. In the short term we may not win the league, we haven't competed properly since MON left anyway, and fans accept that, because we see the plans and believe conceptually in what the board are trying to do.

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