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Kevin Kilbane Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Location: Out Foreign Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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Posted: 04 May 2024 at 3:02am |
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I've been thinking how to approach this for a couple of days and I think the best thing to do is to try to get a conversation going. The Canham fake interview with the FAI in house tv and a lack of any follow up since seems to have killed all interest and enthusiasm for anything related to the national team.
I've never seen anything like this before. We've been bad plenty, we've had awful results and crap football but there was still always a sense of hope that it might get better with young players or new manager etc.... just something to cling on to. This is the first time ever I've seen Irish fans just stop caring. Im in a couple of football group chats that would be very active on weekends with Irish players conversation, and everything has come to a halt. Even on here yesterday someone commented on the O'Mahoney thread that there had been zero posts on the forum in over 24 hours, that unbelievable. This is a week where we had a young Irish Striker make his 1st Premiership start, while Murphy got gametime for an oil rich big club. Those things are notable and should be talked about far more than they were, across all groups and forums who talk about Irish football regularly. We've stopped caring! For me the blame for this is 100% at the door of the FAI. We can, and should, blame Canham for his incompetence. Hill has already gone, but why has there been nothing from anyone else within the FAI over the last number of weeks. Why had Paul Cooke not shown some leadership. How can we be in a situation where they think its acceptable for us not to have manager of our National team in place for over a year. We have 2 friendlies in June that are now the biggest waste of time for everyone involved. Why would any player turn up for it? Some will have been on the beach after the end of the Championship season and we are expecting them to come into a camp for nothing games. So what can we as fans do about it? Firstly I really wish we could organize a mass boycott of the home game against Hungary. YBIG is a big voice for Ireland fans and if we got something going here it could spread. The problem with a total boycott though is that season tickets have been sold and so there will be some fans at the game. Could we organize a protest inside the stadium? For example everyone bring a tennis ball to the game like has been done by other supporters and at an arranged time everyone throw the ball on to the pitch. Lets not just have the usual attitude of accepting the FAI bullsh*t with a shrug of the shoulders. Not being able to find a manager in the time frame they've had should be completely unacceptable and people within the FAI should not be able to just continue as usual with fans making their voices heard.
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Scissors Kick
500 Club la la la Joined: 10 Jan 2017 Status: Offline Points: 739 |
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I've been wondering / hoping something like this might happen.
The FAI in their stunning levels & new lows of incompetence and arrogance towards the support have achieved what would have once been impossible, considering the depth of goodwill towards this team all my life. They have killed the enthusiasm for it, for talking about it & the enjoyment of it & that is perversely a huge achievement, you have to really sh it on the support repeatedly in order to get to where we are today. Canhams safe room controlled environment, frankly sickening, piecemeal interview he finally bothered to do after months of stringing the country along was a disgraceful new, and final low, for many by the looks of it. Not only should there be a boycott, there needs to be one. But more than that, there should be a protest which highlights what the supporters are feeling. It's not his fu king side, it's ours. The supporters. I think balls onto the pitch at arranged intervals would force the spotlight onto them in a way they can't just shrug off, which they will do to a low attendance. It might make him / them actually come & face some of the uncomfortable questions he needs to face, instead of the contempt he's happy to treat us with all along & continues to. Or is everyone just going to pay up, shut up & eat more crap from this absolutely credibility shot individual & association ? Which is it to be ? |
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liongard822
Joe Lapira Joined: 02 Nov 2023 Location: Bundoran Status: Online Points: 11 |
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There definitely has to be a form of protest. I don't think we can all sit back and take this much longer. I mentioned protest a few weeks back and not one person responded.
Ideally a boycott against Hungary would be the most effective. However we are probably not that far off an unofficial boycott of the game. 26000 odd maybe will attend. But they will be the hard-core. Some will never miss a game. Maybe stay inside for the first few minutes of the game could be tried? Small steps. The ball idea is great though as it only needs a smaller amount to engage with it but with maximum effect.
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inlikeflynn
500 Club la la la Joined: 29 Oct 2014 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 730 |
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It’s an age old story. You weaken and weaken the people and then, at a time you should be challenged, there isn’t anyone there to challenge you. The lack of posts in here show that genuine fans are starting to lose faith in Irish international football. The FAI don’t want committed and passionate fans. They want event junkies who get pissed and put pictures on instagram. They want corporate hospitality and seats full of sponsors and school kids on an organised trip instead of being brought there by their father. They want big queues ordering overpriced, unhealthy sh*te food. Taking money off Castore and Sky for the privilege of selling us €140 jerseys splashed with logos. None of that relies on football. Results seem to be far down the FAI’s wish list. Football should come first. Results should come first. And alienate the traditional fan, which they are doing well, and there will be nobody there to hold them to account. Fuck the FAI
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t_rAndy
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Can we have a list of bullet points as to what the protest would be against.
I wouldn't be in favour of a protest just because they have fudged the hiring of a new manager. |
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Online Points: 25132 |
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Same.
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liongard822
Joe Lapira Joined: 02 Nov 2023 Location: Bundoran Status: Online Points: 11 |
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Well screwing up the International Men's Manager appointment is quite a large public thing. I don't think any fan base would be happy with this. But it's the tip of the iceberg.
Who can be happy with the direction of the FAI. The incompetence or the corruption of it. The Egos involved. The lack of finance generated. Does our Director of Football even have the skill set or the communication skills? Then the lessening standards of our senior players. How many minutes are our players playing in the top leagues. Compared to say, the start of the millennium. Our youth set up, why is it not baring fruit? Or are we back to hunting players who are Irish from other countries set ups alone? The LOI, it thrives thanks to the clubs and the volunteers. The FAI has done nothing for it. Can the standards be raised to help player standards and Academy levels. Or do we leave it to be almost a separate entity entirely. These are the questions that need to be asked. Especially when other countries our size can compete at all levels too.
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t_rAndy
Robbie Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 26291 |
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I'd be more in favour of marching on the government to invest more in sport.
I know the FAI still need to come up with a better plan. There are conversations about maybe reviewing the academy level, they need to happen at an accelerated level with the highest priority. If they don't put a good plan together for making a case for funding so we overcome the fallout of Brexit impact on our top youngsters, then I'd be up for protesting against that. Or protesting against government for not backing it. I think failures within FAI or briefs given to certain people, that is something for the board and management and to handle
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Davey Langan Fantasy Football Champion 17/18 Joined: 23 Jul 2015 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 817 |
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Stay out for the first 8 minutes of the game to represent how many months they've been trying to hire a capable manager
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The GerK
Moderator Group Razor you wanna pint?...2 minutes later Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 20561 |
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Absolutely not.
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SeaSharp
Liam Brady Joined: 09 Jun 2022 Location: Ingerlund Status: Offline Points: 1865 |
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Great post. My interest levels in the national team have ebbed and flowed a little bit historically, but I've never felt so apathetic towards it than I do now. Used to always be checking the scores to see how the Irish lads are getting on. Now I'll just pop on here occasionally and check a few threads hoping for the latest news, no interest in investing any more time than that. I began to get fed up when Kenny wasn't sacked soon enough, but the clown show that's taken place since has been beyond uninspiring.
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Razors left peg
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 28 Sep 2010 Location: Out Foreign Status: Offline Points: 228 |
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No interest? Happy with Status Quo? FAI are great bunch of lads and we shouldn't complain? We continue with the usual Irish thing of a shrug of the shoulders and accept what we are given? Care to expand on absolutely not? I don't know what fans should do exactly but I was hoping we could at least have a discussion about not putting up with the FAI continuing to be completely incompetent. The manager thing is the tip of the iceberg but a major symptom of their failings. I'd like to think the fans have some power here to make change |
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Dont argue with stupid people, they'll only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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King_Kenny
Liam Brady Joined: 31 Aug 2019 Location: Claudy Status: Offline Points: 2507 |
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That could be 20 minutes early for him
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GaretFarellysNutSack
500 Club la la la Joined: 11 Mar 2020 Status: Offline Points: 558 |
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The apathy is also down to the fact that we haven't had a consistent top level footballer that would get fans on board in god knows how many years. I just assume O'Mahony will go nowhere, like all our other players for what seems like a long time, so that's why there was zero excitement about his start the other night. I would imagine others feel the same.
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Deane
Liam Brady Joined: 17 Oct 2014 Location: Co Down Status: Offline Points: 2971 |
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Are a lot of the current problems not legacy of the Delaney era?
The Hill thing was a shambles but he is gone. Waiting for the right candidate for the manager is the right thing to do. Even if not ideal. The only thing they should have done was perhaps keep Kenny until the right replacement was available, but basically everyone was calling for Kenny's head. So what can you do.
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kevincronin2000
Jack Charlton Cork Airport Dogging Administrator Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Location: P. Rep of Cork Status: Online Points: 5291 |
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The blacked out email at the Oireachtas committee meeting was appalling but yet they want government hand outs
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time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it.
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50%lesssugar&salt
Liam Brady Joined: 02 Sep 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1300 |
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Have put in comments to your points:
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greenlad
Liam Brady Joined: 30 Jan 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1697 |
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Shouldn't all these issues be raised at the AGM by representatives off this forum, I honestly don't think a protest as such is the way to get the questions answered. Fair enough they will get the feeling of unrest from the fans but there's no real direct indication as to what these issues. Just because people felt the tennis ball incident worked it's not to say it's the way it should be at the drop of a hat.....
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